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Why are ppl so down on Scarlet Fixed lens??

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Scarlet Fixed will eliminate all the glass to carry around and just hit the ground running, why get upset witn the fixed lens? you can do so much with it.
 
Haven't seen it ... knowing Red, its probably a fantastic lens.

The problem isn't the lens ... its that the lens is fixed.

Of course Red is making a Scarlet without a lens for those who want/need the flexibility ... so I haven't really heard much complaining.

Now ... without knowing what lens Red will offer on the fixed, its still my inclination to prefer the interchangeable lens. The Red Pro mini-primes and the 2/3" ENG lenses are great, and they all offer flexibility - but they will add cost for every bit of flexibility.

Countering that ... there are a lot of people who NEVER buy lenses for their camera. They may as well get a fixed and not have to deal with any hassles about lenses.
 
Yep...not really sure where this perceived negativity is coming from...
 
The fixed glass is no show stopper for me - but the main drawback I can think of is sensor size. Once you've been using 1/3" cams from Panny, Sony, JVC, and Canon, and then you shoot on a larger sensor (like the HDSLRs, RED ONE, etc.) and experience the shallow depth of field control and low light capabilities it's awfully hard to go back to a 1/3" (or in Scarlet's case, 2/3") sensor. Of course, in some scenarios, (ENG, live events, etc.) the deep depth of field of the smaller sensor is a definite advantage for pulling focus. However, for more cinematic type shoots the ability to easily achieve shallow DOF and get better low light performance on a larger sensor is sweet. Hence the speculation in the "Roadmap" thread by many users that perhaps red will bypass the EPIC-S, swap out the 2/3" MX sensor in Scarlet for a larger Dragon or MX sensor, and kick all kinds of arse on the way. I know that would make me quite happy. Red has a way of doing that :)
 
Chromatic aberation, limited focal lengts and fixed as in 'I can't change the lens on my 20K camera'.
 
I think the Scarlet fixed would excellent, a true Red product. I wouldn't mind that the lens is fixed, alltough I would prefer changeable lenses also.
But I think I'll go for the Scarlet fixed it would suit my need for now.
 
Sometimes you want to go with a really fast lens like f1.4 (there are faster lens of course but they are really expensive and the DoF is really shallow), sometimes you want to go really wide like the widest lens you can get just before it goes fisheye, or you might even want to shoot something fisheye, and sometimes you want that really really long lens to get shots that you can't easily get close to, like surfing or wildlife.

You dont' even have to own those lenses which are often quite expensive. You can just rent one for the day if you need it for a particular shoot.

The fixed lens on the Scarlet is relatively low light capable, goes fairly wide, and long. So it does cover most of what you need, but it's nice to have the option to use other lenses for certain situations.

Assuming you have a canon mount, and the Epic X does so maybe the Scarlet interchangeable will have that option as well, look at all the cool lenses you can use:

http://www.borrowlenses.com/category/canon

There's even a tilt shift lens in there and it's only 40 bucks for a 3 day rental. Maybe you don't need to do any tilt shift shots, but who knows?

There's a 800mm lens. That's some serious range. I've never shot anything with a lens that long actually. And even a Canon 85mm f1.2. With a good camera you can literally light a scene with a candle and that lens. The actors nose might be in focus and his ear out of focus, but still that's some serious low light capability.
 
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Anyone who's used a RED One in the backcountry is gonna be pretty stoked with the fixed Scarlet. For sports, documentary work, dangerous situations, tight spots, it'll be perfect. Also, I hate switching lenses in a snowstorm. Plus, the lens will be way sharper than any affordable zoom. Plus it'll cut in with the other RED lenses. Plus, it's got about the depth of field of 16mm which is what I've used most and really like. And you get super sweet r3d files. Just huck them in Premiere and you're ready to go.
 
Jesper Sichlau said:
Chromatic aberation, limited focal lengts and fixed as in 'I can't change the lens on my 20K camera'.
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Chromatic aberration is a question mark, as we haven't seem a whole lot of footage from scarlet yet. However, the quality of the optics have been said to be very good, and on par with the Mini pirimes. Jarred's exact quote: "The design of the Zoom is incredible, we were able to bring it well over 100 lp/mm to match the mini primes, so the two lenses will match very well in terms of sharpness."

Adapters from a number of manufacturers are available that will allow for more wide and telephoto possibilities.

$20,000 for the price is far above anything that we've heard for a Scarlet package, and is speculative only.

To answer the question of the poster: I haven't really heard anyone down on the fixed Scarlet. I think people see it, and wish it had greater capabilities. But for what it is, nearly everyone sees it as an amazing camera.
 
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