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Who makes the Mysterium sensor?

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Did you try a search? There are threads ad nauseam on the subject.

*not being curt in tone btw- but you will see what I mean with the search.*
 
Hence the Red reflection...
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Welcome to Skynet, how may I assist your apocalypse today?
 
Ruairi Robinson said:
From what I heard, the chip was discovered in the cranium of a cyborg skeleton they found crushed in a hydraulic press in some sort of steel mill...
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Lets hope the Mysterium X doesn't because self aware! If we don't do something about this now, 1997 could see nuclear winter Now i guess I understand what EPIC really is...
 
Red Digital Cinema....

its otherwise a mystery hence the name "Mysterium" it was originally to be entitled "Delirium" but was soon changed after a sudden lack of interest.

may i be as bold as to quote James directly
Jannard said:
The point is that we didn't piggy-back on anyone's sensor design. It was a fresh sheet of paper. It is RED's design. The fab house could be anywhere... but that isn't where the technology is. It is in the design of the sensor.

Jim
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Such information is typically held in confidence by companies that share technology. For example RED would have vendors in other industries and countries that would agree to be bound by non-compete/non-disclosure agreements, often in exchange for large volume purchase orders. You could possibly unearth the source, but it wouldn't help you in acquiring Mysterium X sensors, since they are probably protected by a pending Patent or some other legal protection instrument like a license to manufacture. Jim has been manufacturing products for close to thirty years and based on my observations of his operations both at Oakley and RED, he knows how to cover his tracks. Jim will probably own the digital cinema camera market before any competitor could challenge him. The only thing any of us need to know about the Mysterium is that it works, it's cheap, and you can buy one from RED.

Another note about manufacturing: People put a lot of stock in Brand Name OEM Manufacturers, as if something of quality could only be produced by organizations or companies you've heard of before. The reality is far from the mark on this one. A well-designed and well-engineered product that works and performs up to or exceeds the specifications of the design intent can be built on a contract basis by a well-equipped specialized factory that has very good engineering talent and test equipment.

I've been to factories in Asia that look like James Bond movie sets, they're so high tech. And they don't belong to any one company's manufacturing division, they're contracting facilities. It comes down to the product idea, the invention know-how, the engineering, the manufacturing, the testing and QC, the funding to keep the development moving until the goal is met and the will to see it through. Most Brand Name companies contract out their manufacturing to different factories in different countries.
 
At NAB, a Sony upper level manager at the table behind us was saying that RED is one of their sensor customers.
 
You shoulda seen the beer come flying outta my nose :)
 
reality said:
At NAB, a Sony upper level manager at the table behind us was saying that RED is one of their sensor customers.
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He was probably trying to get laid. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas bleh bleh.

Noah
 
For those who know who makes sensors and how those places make them, it is not that tough to figure out who did does it for RED. I don't blame them for not wanting to tell, as frankly it is no one's business. I know where other camera's sensors are made. Who cares? These are companies that likely no one has ever heard of, yet they are the tops in their fields. RED gets its sensors from an excellent fabricator, and I'm sure that no one else has the RED design.
 
Mitch, that's a wise statement.

Graeme
 
I really don't understand this repeated questioning about who makes the sensor for Red. It seems pointless for the following reasons:

1. The design belongs to Red, so you can only buy one from Red.
2. If you are planning to design your own sensor, you should be knowledgeable enough to know where to have them made.
3. Even if you somehow got one from the foundry, how would you do the rest of the processing necessary to use it in a camera. (The additional packaging, that's most likely required.)
4. Once you've packaged it, are you then going to design the rest of the circuitry, circuit boards and write all the software to package the whole thing into your own camera?
5. If you want one for your Red, because the one you have was damaged, it clearly will be much easier and cheaper to get it replaced by Red.
6. Having designed both the hardware and software for image processing, I can suggest that it's a rather time consuming task, and if one already owns a Red, it might be a better use of one's time to use the camera to accomplish the task for which it was purchased.

I'm not trying to be mean or ugly, curiosity is a natural thing, but sometimes not very productive.
 
I think that finding who makes the Mysterium should be the plot for Indiana Jones V. Spielberg directing a movie about a washed up old guy searching for a kick arse digital sensor should make for some great laughs.

Actually I don't blame Spielberg for Indy IV, but rather Lucas... damn you George Lucas, damn you to hell. Stop ruining my childhood memories & stop relying on CGI so freakin much. Remember little things like plot & tension?

Wait... sorry to get off track... think I blacked out for a second there...
 
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