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Who makes Red Primes ?

David (dudi) Namir said:
Nice lenses, but what about the 18mm?
It is much more difficult to make a wide angle lens and I think the process is not going as smooth as everyone though it would.
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RELAX ! They will have the 18mm out soon. The Redprimes are an excellent value. Undeniable.

Grab a Duclos 11-16mm T2.8 to cover your wides until the 18mm ships.

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com
 
I have this feeling that RPP glass could come from the same source as PV primos, e.g. Angenieux (Thale) Canada. Assembly could be done anywhere, like Canon Japan.

Businesswise it could make sense for all parties involved:
Angenieux does not do primes; PV does not sell; Canon could `learn´ how to make cine lenses, probably silently developing their own set of super-speeds for FF35: win-win situation for all parties involved.

.... just my USD 0.01 :-)
 
Peter,

I'm sure you are kidding because RPPs are Made in Japan as a lens design and Assembled in China to get the best price...
 
peter roehsler said:
...RPP glass could come from the same source as PV primos, e.g. Angenieux (Thale) Canada...
Businesswise it could make sense for all parties involved:
just my USD 0.01 :-)
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Peter

Get your penny back :-) Thales does not make the glass for PV lenses, and it really makes no sense for Angenieux Canon or PV to manufacture inexpensive lenses to sell retail when none of their business involves this. Other than that, I agree with your analysis.
 
Sanjin Jukic said:
I'm sure you are kidding because RPPs are Made in Japan as a lens design and Assembled in China to get the best price...
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RPP's are not assembled in China. They are assembled in Japan.
 
Jeff Steinebach said:
I am just wondering who makes Red Lenses? They do look like sigma or maybe even Nikon's
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So if I had a set of Red primes and I may well buy a set or two, and thought they were great lenses and they performed well but not knowing which factory they were made in. If I then took one apart and found say C**ke written inside, would they then perform better or would their value go up or down ? or perhaps if I found they had S**gma written inside what would my perception then be and their actual resale value having found the place on the planet they were made.

For me they say Red on it and thats good enough.

I also have two Contax lenses both Zeiss Designed one made in Germany and one in Japan, both Appear to be identical but the Lens made in Japan (at Kyocera I think) is sharper but I perceive the lens made in Germany is a better lens and it sells for more.

I also have some Leica Primes and one is reportedly made to a Minolta design. It still performs perfectly well given what it is. Leica thought it was good enough to put their brand on it.

So I think what I am trying to get at is if the new lenses are good and make great images and they say Red on them isnt that OK ?
 
David W. Jones said:
Preposterous Matthew!
Fact....
Red Lenses are NOT made by Keebler Elves.

It is time to set the record straight!!!

As someone who has not only used them, but has also seen them being produced in the factory, I can only state the obvious. If you look closely at the lenses it is very easy to see where they are made. For example if you were to look at the focus ring on the 300mm, you would see two small rings of chocolatey goodness and a piping of fudge on the Lens Shade. The 25mm is even easier to tell apart by the pecan pieces between the T stop markings. Even the super chocolate crunch 18-85mm zoom is easy to spot by it's marshmallow Bokeh and fudge piping. But the biggest giveaway is next to the serial number of all Keebler lenses, The chocolate thumb print.
So.... I hope everyone is now clear, Red lenses are Not made by Keebler Elves.

As a side, I will say the the Keebler lenses tend to shoot a little soft, and are not great for shooting sunny exteriors. But they are fantastic with a glass of cold milk.

All the Best!

Dave
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Ha ha, in all this was the only thing worth reading.. now let me go down for some Italian Nutella Hazelnut chocolate Spread.

I just don't get how one must always try to take apart good stuff, even when is bad, why take it apart, stop using it and get something else, but when it works as fantastic as the RPP's do, why even bother counter analyzing them.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
RPP's are not assembled in China. They are assembled in Japan.
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It could be also that RPPs are designed in California and assembled in Japan by Sigma.
 
Sanjin Jukic said:
and assembled in Japan by Sigma.
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Most unlikely IMHO, Sigma does not have expertise in that kind of lens, nor makes any lenses with similar tolerances. Companies with Video / Cine Prime lenses would be more likely as they are geared up for smaller quantities of production.
 
God this talk is hysterical. I know exactly who makes these lenses. There are only so many places with the manufacturing capability and also there are certain tell tale signs in the way they are executed.

That said, it really doesn't matter. The lenses are what they are, and they are built in a facility which is appropriate to their construction. They are made in Japan, just as it says on the label. Why does anyone care?

And no, Angenieux has nothing to do with it. That was actually pretty funny, at least to those of us that know certain things.
 
I'm going to guess Cosina of Japan; they make Planar T lenses for Zeiss.
 
We took over that old hollowed out volcano after they finished with it on the Bond film.
 
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