Who is the youngest Red owner?

[Andrew Rieger]

Should do a competition, RED only, best short, best feature done on RED...

Show case in the Shot on RED area is nice but a competition would be pretty neat, whatever happened to the 72hr ones?

Something like the vincent laforet canon contest but shot on red and sponsored by red. Winners could get an accessory like an EVF or lcd screen.

 

[Ryan S]

I just gave my 10yr old a red and a couple of his friends one to basketball with. This thread is dumb.....who cares who's is the youngest. How bout a thread for who can get the best work done with it. I know peeps who own them and their projects suck. Dumbest thread i have ever seen on this board.

Then why bother posting?

It's nice to know there's such a wide range of ages of red owners. I wasalways curious about who the youngest and oldest might be...

 

[Erik Franzén]

Be nice people. No one has said anything about young people owning a RED camera owns or sucks. I'd agree this thread was stupid if anything of age-experience ratio was suggested.

As it stands though, this thread is just a nice - informative, IMHO - way to get to know each others age! So chill and sit back and enjoy (I am 17, for the record). :thumbup:

 

[K. cromwell]

Something like the vincent laforet canon contest but shot on red and sponsored by red. Winners could get an accessory like an EVF or lcd screen.

Andrew the rambling about the 18yr old is fine, but in the end...
You have to have a goal 40k is 80 people giving you $500 It's not a lot of money but if you look at it like next to impossible it will be and then it will be unattainable.

If someone were to give you an entire business like Red Rock Micro or Zacuto for 60k you'd be more than willing to take it or even a 5 bedroom plush house for 50k you' d take it, (because to you that's a steal)but when you think of a camera as costing 40k you cringe at the idea. It's all about perception and how determine you are bottom line. Right now my goal is to get 25k that's $50 people paying $500 a pop.

 

[Andrew Rieger]

Andrew the rambling about the 18yr old is fine, but in the end...
You have to have a goal 40k is 80 people giving you $500 It's not a lot of money but if you look at it like next to impossible it will be and then it will be unattainable.

If someone were to give you an entire business like Red Rock Micro or Zacuto for 60k you'd be more than willing to take it or even a 5 bedroom plush house for 50k you' d take it, (because to you that's a steal)but when you think of a camera as costing 40k you cringe at the idea. It's all about perception and how determine you are bottom line. Right now my goal is to get 25k that's $50 people paying $500 a pop.

What does my quoted statement above have to do with what you said?

No rambling, just curious. Money is money, you either have it or you do not.

 

[K. cromwell]

What does my quoted statement above have to do with what you said?

No rambling, just curious. Money is money, you either have it or you do not.

I quoted the wrong post it was about the 18yr kid that made all those connections and how some believed he had enough to afford a RED.

Also I don't believe you either have it or not... there are certain principles to follow if you don't have money and in the end you will have it.

Your question was how does the 18yr old kid afford to get a Red... A lot if it can be value (how valuable you are to the market place). If you aren't valuable you don't make much money.

However at the end of the day if you get loads of money and blow it off on non-sense then you wont ever have any. About what I said earlier if you look at 40k which is money as a lot of money you will never really set a goal to get it, because to you it will always be out of reach.

If though you look at it as nothing and put you heart and mind into getting it you will get it with planning and preparation your mind will find a way.

 

[Eric S.]

It's easy to be seduced by envy while looking at others' success, especially if you crave more from yourself. We're all thrown into different environments with different tools and talents. Most of us won't become rich or famous. But is that the goal? Are money and notoriety the ultimate barometer?

Indeed, is success a quality measured by society or a quality measured by ourselves?

 

[Rick Darge]

Put money down when I was 23. Had no idea where I was going to find that money but knew that this Red company was going to be something special despite everyone and their mother crying Scam Scam Scam... Seriously.. I remember after I bought the camera, big rental houses around here were still crying wolf and now they all love it of course. I won't name names but the Red universe was a helluva a lot different when i picked up 363 compared to picking up MX 363, haha.. Edited for a year straight. Bought the camera when I was 25. I'm 27 now.

What's the point of this thread exactly?

 

[Stephen Williams]

Should do a competition, RED only, best short, best feature done on RED...

Show case in the Shot on RED area is nice but a competition would be pretty neat, whatever happened to the 72hr ones?

Why RED only?

 

[Imran Farouk]

Best RED picture?
I'm not against other cameras but it'd be neat to see what can be done in a short time with just a RED camera...
Definitely could be a learning experience too...
You can always do a general competition any time...but this is REDUser so why not do both?
Then take the winners from both and do a final show down...

I'm running on no sleep so I'm probably talking rubbish...

 

[Pietro Impagliazzo]

Why RED only?

Because we are RAW supremacists.

And that's what we do to aliasing, jello and crappy compression:

:violent5:

 

[Jeremy_Sawatzky]

Im only 19 years old and really hoping i can get my hands on my scarlet before i turn 20. im looking to get the 2/3 scarlet camera when it comes out. If i had really really wanted, i could have owned a red one at this point in my life, the unfortunate thing is that i didnt know about red until only a few years ago. ive been working since i was 10 years old, well... i duno if 6 years of a paper route counts hehe. I spent my money on silly stuff. for instance, over the coarse of my computer buying spree, ive probably spent 5-6 grand on computers, my mountain bike was over 2 grand, a silly sony handycam was another 1000 bucks. car stereo another grand. when i was 14 i dropped 1000 bucks on a stupid remote control car. Thats only my main hobbies. theres probably another 8 grand in just OTHER STUFF! I wasnt even working anywhere near full time. I never had a handout, i come from a family of 10, my parents had to support 8 kids so i had no trust fund or anything like that. Im happy where i am, i consider myself very fortunate to be able to afford the scarlet when its released and i have a plan for when i get it to pay it off. The fact is, yes i would love to be rich and bla bla bla. my dream job though is to be in a helicopter flying over the Himalayas, shooting the next installment in the next planet earth series on my Brand new Red camera hopefully this will become a reality, but for now i just have to suck it up and my silly retail job, pull through and persevere. Il get there though. srry for long post

 

[Joseph Hutson]

Im only 19 years old and really hoping i can get my hands on my scarlet before i turn 20. im looking to get the 2/3 scarlet camera when it comes out. If i had really really wanted, i could have owned a red one at this point in my life, the unfortunate thing is that i didnt know about red until only a few years ago. ive been working since i was 10 years old, well... i duno if 6 years of a paper route counts hehe. I spent my money on silly stuff. for instance, over the coarse of my computer buying spree, ive probably spent 5-6 grand on computers, my mountain bike was over 2 grand, a silly sony handycam was another 1000 bucks. car stereo another grand. when i was 14 i dropped 1000 bucks on a stupid remote control car. Thats only my main hobbies. theres probably another 8 grand in just OTHER STUFF! I wasnt even working anywhere near full time. I never had a handout, i come from a family of 10, my parents had to support 8 kids so i had no trust fund or anything like that. Im happy where i am, i consider myself very fortunate to be able to afford the scarlet when its released and i have a plan for when i get it to pay it off. The fact is, yes i would love to be rich and bla bla bla. my dream job though is to be in a helicopter flying over the Himalayas, shooting the next installment in the next planet earth series on my Brand new Red camera hopefully this will become a reality, but for now i just have to suck it up and my silly retail job, pull through and persevere. Il get there though. srry for long post

Sounds kinda familiar...all except the blowing money in the different place.

Family of 7, never got allowance money, and in my 7th of doing a paper route. I don't do the paper route for money (haven't for the past 2 years). I can make in 1 hour doing video, more than what I do for the whole month of paper-route. Go figure...

Now, I plan on getting a couple of Scarlet Fixed packages + a number of other modules.

 

[Jeremy_Sawatzky]

Sounds kinda familiar...all except the blowing money in the different place.

Family of 7, never got allowance money, and in my 7th of doing a paper route. I don't do the paper route for money (haven't for the past 2 years). I can make in 1 hour doing video, more than what I do for the whole month of paper-route. Go figure...

Now, I plan on getting a couple of Scarlet Fixed packages + a number of other modules.

I know man, paper routes were never good money making jobs lol. In 6 years of doing a paper route i only made 1800 bucks. 6 YEARS!!! lol but just like my dad said, it built character

 

[Mathew Medeiros]

I'm 21 but I've been working as the primary tech and equipment manager for my company's RED since I've been 19. It's the only way I could be that familiar with the camera and not own it outright.

 

[Alec Morris]

I turned 20 in december. two of my business partners and i just recently bought a red one. i've been working in film since i was 14, starting in oklahoma where i worked for one of the producers of the godfather. now i live in la. i had a full scholarship to usc film production, but left last year because they wouldn't let me shoot anything i did
(in or out of class) on the red one or any other professional level camera. with the changes happening now in the industry, i didn’t like being told i wasn’t allowed to be a part of it.

ive been saving money since i started working. my parents have been incredibly supportive, but the only thing they've been able to buy me was a really nice fake id (no kidding) so that there wouldn’t be any awkward situations if a client wanted to meet at a bar to discuss a project. i remember working in locations on a movie sometime around 2006 and hearing from the dp about this crazy guy who used to own oakley coming out with some kind of digital camera. i've followed it obsessively on the internet ever since, and worked around it any way i could since it first came out.

i realize that my age seems strange to many. in fact i usually grow a beard on productions to look older. when people find out how old i am, my work has already spoken for itself. they respect me as an artist and professional, they don’t look at me as ‘some kid.’ my company is actually doing better than i ever could have imagined at this point. we are quite close to doing some music videos for arguably the biggest band in music today. we also own the rights to a film being optioned by one of the biggest agencies in la (wish i could say more). i am the youngest in my company at 20, but the oldest member is still only 25. this wouldn’t be happening if it weren’t for red and other companies like apple. i grew up with handycams being able to make movies on my own. i still do the same thing, only david fincher and i now have the same handycam.

before i left usc, i did a panel on the red camera in the schools biggest theater with Ted, michael cioni, and dean devlin. one of the things we talked about after the panel was over was just how important the red is to my generation in particular. even if directors and cinematographers from my generation are less fortunate than i and are unable to own a red one (or epic or scarlet), they can certainly pull enough money together to rent one. imagine if you had this camera when you were my age and were just starting out.

jim has always said that he made the first red camera to give talented young independent filmmakers a chance to show what they’ve got. the red takes away excuses. if your project doesn’t look good, you can’t blame it on the camera. but if you are talented and have a great story, you have a chance to really take yourself somewhere.

to be perfectly honest, i know some other 20 year olds who 'deserve' a red more than some of the 40 year old owners i have worked with.

the other companies have long operated on the idea that only those that can afford an expensive production 'deserve' a nice camera. red said the opposite. everyone deserves to use this camera. if you are talented (and lucky), budget isn't going to hold you back anymore.

i realize how incredibly lucky i am. jim, ted, and everyone else at red, thank you for giving people like me a chance to prove we have what it takes. i wouldn’t be where i am now if you hadn’t started red. i won’t waste this chance.

 

[Joseph Hutson]

I turned 20 in december. two of my business partners and i just recently bought a red one. i've been working in film since i was 14, starting in oklahoma where i worked for one of the producers of the godfather. now i live in la.

What city here in Oklahoma?

 

[Rick Darge]

i had a full scholarship to usc film production, but left last year because they wouldn't let me shoot anything i did
(in or out of class) on the red one or any other professional level camera.

You do realize USC is in bed with Sony right? Just like how some schools only serve Coca Cola in their vending machines, Sony has rooted itself within the USC curriculum. All of the 310 and 480 films are going over to the EX3 which really makes me sad. Shooting on 16 and 35 and being able to cut with that is the whole point of film school. Shooting on FILM teaches you not to be wasteful. That's why they wouldn't let you use Red. As for not letting you USE a Red camera outside of class. I find that hard to believe. How can USC tell you what to do with your spare time? As long as you're not using their name in vain, then they strongly encourage independent filmmaking on the side. That was pretty ballsy to drop a $120,000+ free ride to the #1 film school in the world, but kudos to you and all your success.

 

[Andrew Rieger]

i had a full scholarship to usc film production, but left last year because they wouldn't let me shoot anything i did
(in or out of class) on the red one or any other professional level camera. with the changes happening now in the industry, i didn’t like being told i wasn’t allowed to be a part of it.

So you left USC, having a full scholarship, because they did not let you shoot on RED? I'm sorry but that may be the most stupid thing I have heard all day. Sony provides equipment for USC, get over it. You don't throw an opportunity like that. Many, myself included, are working hard to get in there for grad film studies and are wondering how we can afford it, and you had a full ride. Anyways, good luck with your company.

 

[Alec Morris]

born and bred in edmond oklahoma.

i did know that usc and sony have an agreement. in fact, i was told usc had a reservation for 3 red ones a couple years ago, but cancelled them because of the sony deal.

as far as not being able to use the red outside of class, it was a question of permits. the film school asked the usc campus public safety officers to be absolute in their enforcement of permits as a teaching tool for student productions. if you don't have a permit, you will get shut down immediately. on the permit application, you have to list the camera you're using. and you can't get a permit if your application says Red on it. i even appealed to the head of physical production, asking if i could get special permission because i had been given the trustee scholarship. no dice. once after that, i tried to convince some campus officers that the red was an ex3. but this is la, and when it comes to cameras, no one is clueless.

i tried to do a production away from campus. but as a student filmmaker, all of the collaborators i knew to work with were other students. and because school kept them so busy, there wasn't enough time to get a crew together for an outside project unless it was close to where they all live. and nobody i knew lived away from campus.

so to meet other people in la that i could work with, i had to work on as many productions around the city as i could. thats how i met all of my partners. there wouldn't have been time to do this if i had still been in school.

luckily a lot of my friends are still in college, so i still get to hang out with college girls while i'm 20 :thumbsup: