Which Mac Pro?

[Christoffer Björklund]

Hello!

I am fairly new in this area so i am just hoping for some advice.
Is this Mac, Mac Pro Quad Core 2,66 GHz 6 GB Ram AtI Radeon HD 4870 512 MB, going to work when working with RED ONE footage?
I read somthing about that the red rocket card can do most of the work?

//Christoffer

 

[Uli Plank]

Yes and yes. But the 4870 is important too if you want to do your own color grading in Apple's Color.

Even an MBP would work, the question is: how much speed? For transcoding in RR or Clipfinder doubling the RAM won't hurt, but don't buy it from Apple, it's overpriced.

 

[Torrey Loomis]

Is this Mac, Mac Pro Quad Core 2,66 GHz 6 GB Ram AtI Radeon HD 4870 512 MB, going to work when working with RED ONE footage? I read somthing about that the RED Rocket™ card can do most of the work?

Christoffer,

If you get a RED Rocket card, then the 2.26 with a 4870 is fine. If you don't want the RR, then the 2.93 will be your fastest option.

The 2.66 is kind of a middle-of-the-road choice that doesn't make a whole lot of sense from a sense or $$$ standpoint.

Get lots of RAM.

Torrey
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[Uli Plank]

Sorry, but I have to contradict.
Normally the middle model of the MacPro is the better choice between price and real-world performance. More RAM is giving you more bang for the buck when transcoding RED footage than the higher CPU clocking.

But once it's fully integrated into NLEs, the RED Rocket will give you the biggest performance boost.

 

[Torrey Loomis]

But once it's fully integrated into NLEs, the RED Rocket™ will give you the biggest performance boost.

Right...that is why you only need a 2.26 Ghz if you are using a RED Rocket.

TL

 

[Christoffer Björklund]

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Hi Thank you for all excellent advices.
I have only one thing wondering about, What is "NLEs"?

 

[JanneJansson]

Hi Thank you for all excellent advices.
I have only one thing wondering about, What is "NLEs"?

Either it's "Non Linear Editing", or Nellys Left Eye, but there are no Linear Editing stations anymore so the word it pointless.

 

[Gunleik Groven]

Non Linear Editing (systems)

Like FCP/Media Composer etc...

(Sorry: Janne beat me to it...)

 

[Julian Gerretsen]

Yes there are! My Steinbeck 35mm cutting desk still works! (Although it hasn't been used in over a decade!!!!)

 

[Douglas Underdahl]

Julian - your Steenbeck is a non linear editor. You can go into the middle of a scene, remove a shot, and splice the rest of the scene back together again and everything will sync up correctly. It's the old 3/4 to 3/4 video record/playback systems that are linear - you can't just pull a shot out of recorded videotape in a "non-linear" fashion like you can with a Steenbeck or Final Cut or Avid, etc.

I had a bunch of Cinemonta edit tables up until about 8 years ago. I sort of miss them, but not really.

 

[Julian Gerretsen]

Douglas: Sorry... I was being fatuous AND a twit at the same time, getting my NLE's mixed up with LE's, because as you rightly say, a manual cutting desk is the first true NLE (if you have enough glue/splicing tape and patience that is!).

I blame it on the red wine. Sorry.

Although I have never had the displeasure, the thought of editing videotape in the bad old days of the LE brings a shudder to my soul. I watched a friend back in '92 editing a simple training video on Sony BETA linear tape to tape and that looked torturous enough to me (plus the equipment cost a fortune and you had to hire time on it because unless you were willing to sell your house, you could forget about owning it). They could do frame accurate stuff (or so it appeared), but they had to plan out exactly what they wanted to do for hours before the final assembly. And any changes after that, well, it's the stuff of nightmares really.

 

[D Fuller]

Douglas: Sorry... I was being fatuous AND a twit at the same time, getting my NLE's mixed up with LE's, because as you rightly say, a manual cutting desk is the first true NLE (if you have enough glue/splicing tape and patience that is!).

I blame it on the red wine. Sorry.

Although I have never had the displeasure, the thought of editing videotape in the bad old days of the LE brings a shudder to my soul. I watched a friend back in '92 editing a simple training video on Sony BETA linear tape to tape and that looked torturous enough to me (plus the equipment cost a fortune and you had to hire time on it because unless you were willing to sell your house, you could forget about owning it). They could do frame accurate stuff (or so it appeared), but they had to plan out exactly what they wanted to do for hours before the final assembly. And any changes after that, well, it's the stuff of nightmares really.

In truth, selling your house would only have given you the downpayment on an edit suite. And when digital NLEs came into their own, the stuff was literally worthless. In 2001 I threw a $75,000 digital effects generator (the exact cost of my house in 1982) into a dumpster because I couldn't find anyone who would take it when I wanted to give it away.