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What's your take on Zeiss Compact Primes?

I have CP1's, but ive used CP2's. they are "standard speeds" for the new age. Nice build, sharp, relatively fast, and decent performers. good all around.
 
Timur Civan said:
I have CP1's, but ive used CP2's. they are "standard speeds" for the new age. Nice build, sharp, relatively fast, and decent performers. good all around.
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That's kind of what I wanted to hear... I mean they're Zeiss lenses, they can't be that bad... Can they?
 
Anyone know where to find the original CP1 lenses? Any search seems to lead me to CP.2s...

I'm looking for a "budget" PL set. Perhaps used CP1 would be the way to go over a modded ZF set.
 
Alexander Ibrahim said:
Ha! That's your complaint?

What next? Are you going to compare a Ferrari to a Fiat?
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My mate has a Ferarri and a Fiat, The fiat is more reliable, economic and according to him more fun to drive as it doesnt tail end on the corners.
 
Timur Civan said:
I have CP1's, but ive used CP2's. they are "standard speeds" for the new age. Nice build, sharp, relatively fast, and decent performers. good all around.
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I thought ZEISS were bad and sterile,cold and horrible 1-2 months ago.
What changed your perspective? So you can see the light now?... are they making money for your rental biz?
 
The CP1's are discontinued but they do cover full frame.
 
No they don't.
FULL frame i mean 5d frame.
Even latest 18mm CP.2 does not cover full frame....thats according ZEISS
 
Cover 24x36mm still frame (refer SALT), if this wasn't your meaning, I apologise, yes I'm aware 18mm vignettes , just thinking it doesn't account for the whole set. Hope someone can chime in and confirm all CP1's frame boundries. It's probably been done before but wouldn't hurt to go over again. Again , sorry Jiri if I'm way off or incorrect.
 
No problem.
Just talked to ZEISS rep at SEMPTE2011 in Sydney.

I just think for 1 man operation ZEISS ZF is great glass for money...I still love 21mm ZF even if it is bit slooow at 2.8. Their new 50mm MACRO 2.0 is great too if one is on budget and can't afford CPs.
Nice affordable poor man's CPs. And with Orbiteks new Nikon Gs look good too. Just don't like NIkon G50mm.....
 
No worries Jiri, just a side note, almost everyone who has Cp's or ZF glass love's the 21mm ( and wish it was T2.1) on the flip side they never seem to like the 25mm T2.8. The same for the 50mm T2.1( originally 1.5} instead they rave about the 50 macro.

Brent
 
Jiri Vrozina said:
I thought ZEISS were bad and sterile,cold and horrible 1-2 months ago.
What changed your perspective? So you can see the light now?... are they making money for your rental biz?
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i still think they are sterile. Last month I started using the cp's under tougher circumstances other than the occasional interview. Hooked em up to an Epic, F3, RedMX, and a AF100. They arent sharp till T4, and have mediocre color rendition and feel. Like i said, they take the place of Standard Speeds in Zeiss' current line. Though in reality, Ultras would probably be the real replacement since The Masters replaced the SupersSpeeds. But calling them sterile, cold etc doesnt mean horrible. I dont think I called them horrible. Those are adjectives describing them. They are still good lenses, they collect light, and focus it on a sensor.... So it does that prettywell.... and it has witness marks... so thats good.... They are good. not great. Not amazing. Just good.

I actually havent made a penny off of them. They rent often, but they dont generate money to offset their expenses. Not sure what im going to do with them. I mean, they are weird in that renting them is like throwing money away, for the owner. they cost 20+K, but its difficult to get the $300 a day they should. People with money want the panchros. People with no money want the CP's but they want them for 4 days for $300. In other words.... Bleh. Or they want just the 50mm, cause they are doing an interview and just need essenstially one lens.... breaks up the set so it kills it for the day, but you also only collect a portion of what you should cause its one lens. Did that once or twice, but screw it. Full days only.
 
Anyone know where i could find used compact primes? Currently the plan is to go with ZFs, but if i can get a good deal on 3 or 4 compact primes that might be a good alternative for me.
 
I have been extremely pleased with my Ziess Standard primes Mk. II 2.1
My 7 lens set is 12,16,24,28,40,85,100

I constantly get compliments from my customers on the visual captured from these lens's

They are roughly the same cost as the Compact Primes and are much smaller.

I had them serviced this year at Duclos (highly recommend them for any Len's servicing) and at that time inquired about the compact primes (which they had for sale in stock) and was basically told that the Len's I had, while much older, are a better product.

Hope that helps....

Carl Zeiss Lenses for Film and Digital Cinematography
http://cinematechnic.com/resources/zeiss_cinematography_lens.html
 
Eric, do the Standard Primes cover the FF5k sensor without vignetting? (especially the 12 and 16)
 
I do not have the EPIC yet.. (STAGE 3 for me)
If anyone local to Long Beach, CA has an EPIC and want to test.. let me know...

Maz Mawlawi said:
Eric, do the Standard Primes cover the FF5k sensor without vignetting? (especially the 12 and 16)
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