What's the Most FUTURE-PROOF Cine Lens?

[Matt Uhry]

I have not messed around with the S5's yet. I'm sure they are nice, but the size and weight...

Interesting times indeed. Now your compact close focus run around hand held all day lens is a zoom - like the Optimo Rouges. The primes all got chunky and are better for studio style work.

If you are local, we can have a beer and geek out on lenses. Drop me a PM.

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry

Thanks for the insight Matthew. Exciting times in this industry and I'm sure
we'll see a lot of cool happenings when it comes to lenses.

What's your opinion on the Cooke 5's? I know they are large as well, maybe
not as big as the MP's ... but curious about your opinion. They cover the
S35 format, but not sure if their wide lenses will fully cover the Epic.

There are a couple places that carry them now in LA -- I may rent them for
a short project and see how I like them.

Thanks,

Anthony

P.S. -- I agree with you ... whatever Leica's support issues in the past, it's
hard to imagine them or BandPro not fully taking care of a customer who
drops nearly $200,000 on a set of lenses.

 

[Pawel Achtel]

Leica vs. Arri

Leica vs. Arri

...your experience with Leica customer service has nothing to do with Leica just because you wanted to service the lenses that were mechanically remade and redesigned from third party...

Please don't try to spread the FUD that Leica tried out to sell people expensive set of perfect cine lenses and leave them without a proper customer service.

As usual, Sanjin, you are incorrect. I tried to get a part for a stock standard, non converted Leica lens. They refused to service me because of ANOTHER lens that I also had and that was converted to PL mount. The fact that you are persistently misinterpreting my own experiences is totally inappropriate.

Unfortunately ADEAL, which is the only authorised Leica dealer in Australia, has one of the worst customer service I've ever come across. The fact that Leica won't let me deal with anyone else is their own disfunction in complete disrespect of its customers.

Anyway, you will be pleased to know that after almost a year of writing countless emails to both Leica and ADEAL I finally managed to purchase the f....g $120 LENS CAP that I needed a year ago, which they obviously had in stock, just couldn't bother moving their fat asses to serve me as a customer.

Unlike you, I use both brands and not discriminate based on the brand name. I had two completely different experiences as a customer.

In contrast to this, Arri's support and customer service are consistently excellent. I can highly recommend them to anyone, not just the product. They will bend backwards to make sure that you are happy with the product long after the sale. Spare parts are readily available and the General Manager himself is even willing to hand deliver even the tiniest part to me personally even on weekend or invite me for a coffe.

These companies are worlds apart.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Pawel,

I believe you but also let you know that Leica cine set is distributed by another channel that has anything to do with the service of Leica still glass that's as you were already reported here very bad in Australia.

Btw, Arri doesn't not service their branded lenses because they do not have facilities to do that and they just forward the lenses to their partners: Carl Zeiss or Fujinon as a newest one.

 

[Pawel Achtel]

Btw, Arri doesn't not service their branded lenses because they do not have facilities to do that and they just forward the lenses to their partners: Carl Zeiss or Fujinon as a newest one.

Sanjin, this is also entirely incorrect. Arri does service Arri Zeiss lenses. They have specialised Zeiss-trained and certified technician (Mr. Rey Adia) and equipment here in Sydney and all Master Primes, Ultra Primes and zooms can be serviced and fully tested to the highest standards.

Where do you dig up all this BS from, Sanjin?

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Sanjin, this is also entirely incorrect. Arri does service Arri Zeiss lenses. They have specialised Zeiss-trained and certified technician (Mr. Rey Adia) and equipment here in Sydney and all Master Primes, Ultra Primes and zooms can be serviced and fully tested to the highest standards.

Where do you dig up all this BS from, Sanjin?

Pawel,

under certain degree Arri can do it in Sidney or any other lens service can do basic and limited things

like a PL mount damaged or exchange required, aperture defect, flange-to-film/sensor distance defect, zoom ring rough/uneven,

poor image quality / contrast, filter ring damaged, numbers ring damaged, etc

but if you for example have a damage caused by dropping or impact, aspherical lens elements damaged

than you would need a special lab that Carl Zeiss have in Oberkochen, Germany and they can do it for you only there.

Just because cine lenses anyway do not have a huge volume of production that means

to have worldwide lab network with extremely expensive equipment and highly trained technicians is probably too expensive for any brand.



Hope that finally helps you to get what I'm talking about.

 

[Pawel Achtel]

never mind

 

[Blair S. Paulsen]

I don't think the coverage issues of the Epic are going to be all that big a deal once you crop to an actual shooting or delivery format: 16:9, 1.85, 2.35 add 10% for look-a-round. Voila! now every current 35mm lens will cover just fine...

2:1 while having it's fans, and probably being a good idea, is not really something that theaters or broadcasters can or want to handle. Sorry Vittorio, the projectionist or engineer dude at the TV station has final cut !

OK - what to buy ?

Owner Lenses: You usually get to choose / dictate what gets used on productions
$$ Duclos 11-16,
$$ RPP's - A great "owner" set of lenses. Performs WAY above it's price.

Rentals: Fickle DP's spending other peoples money.
$$$$ Leica's - I think they nailed it in every respect with this lens set. Size, Speed, Resolution, Ergonomics.
$$$ Ultra Primes - Classic Solid Mid budget Rental set.
$$$ Any Angenieux Optimo

Just my opinions...

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com



Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com

I couldn't agree more.

Cheers - #19