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what resolution and FPS will you use for your indie short/feature?

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I think reasonable choices are 2k, 3k, 4k.

Then HDRx means only 2k, or 3k, since max frame rate is 30 and 25 respectively.

Up to 60 FPS in 2k for slo mo shots.

Up to 25 fps in 4k (you'd probably want to go 24 in NTSC land).

Up to 48 fps in 3k. Jackson is shooting the Hobbit in 3d and at 48 fps for less judder and blur I believe.


What would you use for your indie feature/short?

I've never been a big fan of the judder and blur in 24p or 24 fps footage, although some people think it looks more like film when you use the 24 fps. I'm thinking the 48 fps in 3k would be the way to go.
 
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Nothing is really set up for 48fps delivery, currently. You might future proof yourself by doing so, or, if everything moves to a 60fps standard (most if not all TVs being sold these days have a 60hz, 120hz, or 240hz refresh rate) you're still going to end up with visual judder once everything converts over to a higher FPS.

For me, I plan on switching depending on what's actually in the shot. Most things will be 4k at 23.98. If I'm shooting something in-doors with the sky visible outside and lack proper lights, then I'll kick down to 3K and kick on HDRx. Everything I'm going to be delivering for the foreseeable future will be 1080p at highest, so I won't be losing anything. What I'll be gaining by shooting as close to 4k as possible, is consistency with lenses and how it translates to depth of field due to the shift in cropped sensor size as you move down in K's.

If a timeline is really crunched on a project, I may kick down to 2k, just for the DIT side of things. Less data to move, less footage to transcode to ProRes, just a faster overall workflow.


Beauty of Red: it adapts to YOU.
 
I'm going to do a short doco as a camera test in January, some of which will be underwater footage, so I'm aiming to shoot at the full 5K and render down to 1080p 50i. I'd like to future proof it by about ten years, if possible. The project after that will be something like Baraka, only with more slomo than timelapse, which is what prompted the Epic M purchase. For that again we'll be using 5K with the intention of mastering down to 1080p, but the capability to remaster at 4K in the future.
 
Paul Russell said:
I'm going to do a short doco as a camera test in January, some of which will be underwater footage, so I'm aiming to shoot at the full 5K and render down to 1080p 50i. I'd like to future proof it by about ten years, if possible. The project after that will be something like Baraka, only with more slomo than timelapse, which is what prompted the Epic M purchase. For that again we'll be using 5K with the intention of mastering down to 1080p, but the capability to remaster at 4K in the future.
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But then you're shooting at 12 frames per second?
 
You had me for a second there Paul, I was going 5K doco? Whh? Hang on does he mean an epic?
Scarlet thread. Though sharing's always nice :)

Like everyone I'll be doing a lot of testing. And for my Indie feature it will be 4K 25Fps for most. Though I'm really interested to see how the HDR performs in general, (seen some vids) but also with Australian light and in the particular landscapes and environs where I will be shooting. That's going to be FUN.

Personally 48Fps as my staple is something I'm not even considering just on storage alone. I will shoot plenty of 60P 2K like everyone else.
And I only see myself using 120fps @ 1k for a few tests and maybe of family stuff.

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Lliam
 
Eric: I've ordered an Epic M, not a Scarlet. Sorry, I was answering a 'new post' didn't realise I was in the Scarlet forum. My bad.

Liam: I love Aussie light. We did a road trip from Perth to Monkey Mia last May/June and it was awesome. After living in polluted Asia for so long it's wonderful to see stars again.
 
Paul Russell said:
Eric: I've ordered an Epic M, not a Scarlet. Sorry, I was answering a 'new post' didn't realise I was in the Scarlet forum. My bad.

Liam: I love Aussie light. We did a road trip from Perth to Monkey Mia last May/June and it was awesome. After living in polluted Asia for so long it's wonderful to see stars again.
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Hey Paul,

Ah wow. What a great trip! I have wanted to go to Monkey Mia since I was a kid!
Re pollution, I have to say, the more I go overseas, the more I realise just how incredibly lucky I am to live in Australia.

Re Aussie light :) That's so cool. You are the second REDuser to express this to me. I actually used to struggle with the different look compared to what i would see come out of Europe and North America. But I think I'm well over my cultural cringe now :) and starting to appreciate it for what it is instead.

Paul were you shooting Dolphins? As you referenced Monkey Mia and also underwater shooting.

What housing will you use with your epic by the way?

Nice to make your acquaintance.

Best Wishes

Lliam
 
We were just shooting stills for stock, visiting some relatives, spending a bit of time educating the kids and trying our hand at travelogue filming. Not as successful as I'd have hoped on that count, but lots of fun anyway (http://vimeo.com/album/1681263), shot mainly on Panasonic consumer cams, No underwater stuff, that's for next year.

Nice to 'meet' you too. If you're ever up this way, give me a bell.
 
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