What do you hate about your EPIC?

[Robert Horwell]

!. Monitor and EVF connector ( lack of, not being able to have both an EVF and the Red Monitor running out of the box is crazy )
2. Sound, mini jacks and generally poor quality hit or miss sound into camera ( allways been a Red failure )
3. Touch screen ( just doesn't work for me as a professional camera touching little menu buttons )

 

[Alan Peterson]

since this thread is getting derailed a lot.... I'll just throw in a little bit more hate;
- the touchscreen is a "mirror" and prone to smearing and fingerprints...
(that's in the nature of a touchscreen, but well - I'm sure one could play around with coatings a bit)

It doesn't do anything about the "mirror" part, but I transport my camera with a large microfiber cloth folded around the touchscreen as a screen protector. That way, I always have something handy to get rid of excessive smudging/fingerprints.

 

[Robert Ruffo New]

Shows like NCIS LA uses C300's as well as 5D's as b-cams I believe (as well as go pro's or whatever sort of crash cam they need in a given situation.) I am sure the people operating those cameras in those situation don't think that they are prosumers or mediocre. Tools are tools, and the people at the top of the market are there not because the tool they use is capable of putting in the top of the market, but because the work they do and the connections they have made show that they belong there.

Right, as a crash cam, or a specialty situation cam No shows use C300 as main cam. This is a tech forum for discussing technology related to cinematography, so connections and all that are rather irrelevant.

 

[Robert Ruffo New]

I think the important thing to remember is that what truly drives quality is not the kit, it is the talent behind it. You can have the best camera in the world, and I do count Epic in this category, BUT it only guarantees high quality crap without the creative brains and talent to drive it.

Biggest mistake anyone can ever make in this industry is to put equipment ahead of crew - should always be the other way. I would argue that I have shot some of my best footage on the canon C300, simply because it's the quickest and easiest camera to use and when you get those magical moments when you just need to grab a camera to get the shot, the C300 is what I would usually go to first.

The camera is just a tool, a talented DOP will capture magic with a 5D way before an average Joe will deliver anything with an Epic!

Scott

The camera is just a tool, it's all about the story, balh blah blah, then why are you reading a tech forum? Do you think top DPs know nothing about tech. You're wrong. They know a lot about tech. I find comments like this very close to trolling. It's like you're on a cosmetic surgery forum, and you post "Let's not be shallow, it's all about your personality".

 

[Chris Sharman]

Rob,

If Scott prefers to shoot with a C300 in certain situations, he has every right to make that choice. It pays to be informed about all camera systems, maybe that's why he is reading RedUser.

You're right that most top DPs are very well informed technically, but I bet 100% of them would agree with Scott that it is indeed the content that will drive high quality work.

Regarding the trolling comment, I'm sure I'm not alone in tiring of your deliberately provocative posts which usually contribute no more than attempting to shoot down the opinions of other members.

I'm sure you have plenty of value to say but I for one don't find the confrontational attitude helpful.

Chris

 

[Robert Ruffo New]

Rob,

If Scott prefers to shoot with a C300 in certain situations, he has every right to make that choice. It pays to be informed about all camera systems, maybe that's why he is reading RedUser.

You're right that most top DPs are very well informed technically, but I bet 100% of them would agree with Scott that it is indeed the content that will drive high quality work.

Regarding the trolling comment, I'm sure I'm not alone in tiring of your deliberately provocative posts which usually contribute no more than attempting to shoot down the opinions of other members.

I'm sure you have plenty of value to say but I for one don't find the confrontational attitude helpful.

Chris

I probably should make a point of coming off as less abrasive. I am not trying to shoot anyone down. I am trying to provoke debate that brings out the merits of all points of view, not just mine, via challenge.

As per content, I'm not saying that's not important, I'm saying discussion of content belongs n a screenwriting forum, not here. Everything is important - writing, acting, set design, costume styling - it all has to be primo for a movie to be great, and there's nothing wrong with being passionate about any given aspect, no matter how specialized, and striving to know everything you can about it and be the best you can at your work.

You don't see me going on screenwriting forums and saying "it's all about the acting" or on a meet grilling forum saying "its' all about the vegetable accompaniments". It's annoying, and whenever a discussion here gets lively, somebody basically comes in and says we are all wasting our time discussing any topic at length because all that matters is "story" and "content" so why quibble over the finer technical points - in other words all that matter is screenwriting - all other departments should not even spend time discussing their craft in any detail, because they are so irrelevant that even set builders and makeup artists should only ever talk about screenwriting when they have a conversation with each other.

I also write professionally, and I agree that writing is important, but this is not the place to talk about that, certainly not the place to harp about its importance.

 

[Christian Simpson]

I really hate the bricks not directly attaching to the body. I do not like having a cable to deal with for that.