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What about Red One ?????????

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Just like to ask the RED Squad:

What about developments for the Red One?

It seems that since invention of Epic, Scarlet etc. the Red One is not longer the most importent invention...

Everybody is only speaking about the new cameras...

Is there a future for the Red One? Next features? Updates?

Please, let us know...

A big fan and Red One lover...
 
I don't think we can expect any form factor changes to the Red One. It already is a well-designed platform. But as Jay and Mark point out, some incremental advances are already here.
 
And you can fully expect that whatever firmware advances are made on Epic that can be applied to the R1, will be. And for free. It's just the way they roll.
 
Red Store says limited availability on new ones. Probably discontinue production when Epic-S is shipping in quantity, or when they run out of parts, whichever comes first.
Should be some decent buys on used ones for many years and I am sure Red will continue to support it with upgrades if there is a demand.
 
I really don't get why some people think the Red One is on the way out.
Some thought it to be "good enough" for the likes of The Social Network and Pirates of the Caribbean 4 .

We are keeping our Red One.
We also have an Epic stage 2 reservation.
 
Mark Stock said:
I really don't get why some people think the Red One is on the way out.
Some thought it to be "good enough" for the likes of The Social Network and Pirates of the Caribbean 4 .

We are keeping our Red One.
We also have an Epic stage 2 reservation.
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I think Epic-S will take its place with better performance for about the same or less money fully kitted out with rear modules to match Red 1 configuration. Doesn't mean existing ones won't have a very long and useful life ahead of them. They get better with every software upgrade. But they can't take full advantage of the larger MX sensor or support features like HDRx™ due to processing limitations. It wouldn't compete very well as a new camera with its own siblings. Just common sense.
 
You know what, if I was left all alone with an R1 M and a set of RPPs...

I'd be quite happy I could make just about any movie I could imagine, and it would look incredible, if I managed to light it well and shoot it well...
 
I agree Mr. Groven. . .

Having just watched "The Informant" for the first time two nights ago, I have to say that the great Mr. S. could have shot that film with an HVX and a Redrock M2 and done no worse. That film looked atrocious! I was shocked and actually ashamed to have mentioned to our friends that "The Informant" was one of the first films shot on the RED.

The lesson: It's no secret, really. It almost always come down to production design, lighting, and exposure. If you get those three things down pat, you'll have a great-looking shot every time. It might not be a spectacular, blown you mind dolly or jib move, but it will be a great-looking shot.

What this means, of course, is that M-X RED Ones will be generating great footage for years to come. Now, will everyone want the latest, greatest toy? Sure they will. I know I will. But those people who choose to keep their trusty RED Ones will continue to be able to produce incredible footage.

And, as was mentioned above, I expect RED to continue to develop the firmware over time. Advances in Epic will, I'm sure, continue to filter down to the original.

Stephen
 
Stephen,

I'm sure the look of "The Informant" was an intentional artistic one. As storytellers, there are many choices along the way.

You may not like Mr. S's choices, but you imply that if he would learn more about production design, lighting, and exposure he'd have a better (looking) movie.
 
All I was trying to say is this: "The Informant" is one terrible-looking film. If Mr. S. intended to make a terrible-looking film, he succeeded. If he wasn't, he failed.

Stephen
 
When Nikon came out with the F2, F3, etc., I stuck with the FTN. I just liked it and I still have 2 besides my digital Nikons. I love the RED ONE MX and the images it produces. I will stick with it for a long time. I am not saying I will not try the EPIC too, just that the RED MX will always be a favorite. When you really learn a camera and how to get the most out of it, you really get to like it and working with it. It's a comfort as well as quality factor. I spent a long time learning digital film with the RED MX after years of working in 35 film. I like it and understand its quirks and for a long while it will be my camera for making film.
 
obsolescence obsolete ... obsoleted ? :out: :biggrin:
 
Support

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Obsolescence obsolete ... obsoleted ? :out: :biggrin:
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No, it's called support your existing product with new hardware options such as SSD and Bomb EVF and new firmware upgrades such as REDcolor 2 color science and 3D workflow metadata, and then offering a trade in program for an EPIC.
 
Stuart English said:
No, it's called support your existing product with new hardware options such as SSD and Bomb EVF and new firmware upgrades such as REDcolor 2 color science and 3D workflow metadata, and then offering a trade in program for an EPIC.
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Hehe, was just kidding.
As a modular system and thanks to the big quality jump we've got here, Red cameras are still the best solution to play along the years. And yes the trade offer is a very generous thing.

But if you think about it : it's still part of a circle obsolescence process : SSD will be too slow when data will be bigger (monstro & co), so need to change the media. Then at some point a new module will require a brain that can support specific feature nobody thought possible before, etc. So within 5 years, it's difficult to figure out what will be matching current technology and what will be obsolete..

But I do agree Red is doing the best they can to make everything as smooth as possible and i appreciate it.

:anti-old:
 
Mark Stock said:
I really don't get why some people think the Red One is on the way out.
Some thought it to be "good enough" for the likes of The Social Network and Pirates of the Caribbean 4 .

We are keeping our Red One.
We also have an Epic stage 2 reservation.
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Same here. We are 3 shooters sharing one cam, so having 2 will also fix certain arguments that do arise :-)

I mean people are shooting pro work on Af100s, certainly Red is still a high premium camera compared to almost anything but Epic, and at least equal to an Alexa.
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
it looked exactly as he intended.

Jay
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Fair enough, but a dreary, grungy look is
1) Dated. 1997 is over
2) Not appealing to audiences. The same story, an important one that needs to be told, would have reached more people if that film were not so unpleasant to look at.
 
Grungy look is not over. Punk is not over. If audiences can't see a film because its not made to look like a shampoo commercial, they can stay home...
 
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