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Hi there- we tried connecting the HDMI to a small on-board monitor and it seemed to make the RED LCD go dark / off.
Any suggestion here for how to utilize the LCD, HDMI and SDI all at the same time? Thanks!
 
so basically you cant have the red evf, and a touch monitor, and the AC's monitor(hdmi) and the client monitor (sdi) all at the same time?
 
Stacey Spears said:
You can get 3 SDI outputs with OMOD and probably LCD/EVF using the top mount if you need lots of outputs.
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yeah, well i was going to be getting the vlock expander :(
i was thinking about he evf too, but maybe it smarter to be daisy chaining a tv logic or something.
thanks! but a weird limitation.
 
Stacey Spears said:
You can get 3 SDI outputs with OMOD and probably LCD/EVF using the top mount if you need lots of outputs.
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I don't feel like the solution to everything should be getting the OMOD. People either want a compact setup or they might not afford getting the OMOD. Right now, in every thread where people ask for solutions to problems we get suggestions to get the OMOD. I don't question that it's good and solves a lot, but it is an extreme cost for solving issues like the one in this thread.
 
Bob Gundu said:
This limitation didn't exist on the dsmc1 as there was only one lcd port... unless of course you considered the pro IO which was a very expensive option.
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Just mount the Lemo-adapter on the topside and you get that single LCD port. When I put the adapter on top, I can use the HDMI and LCD at the same time no problem :)
 
I hope a firmware fix for this will be implemented...to be able to switch which pogo port is shared with HDMI...hopefully it's not an HW limitation??
 
Christoffer Glans said:
Just mount the Lemo-adapter on the topside and you get that single LCD port. When I put the adapter on top, I can use the HDMI and LCD at the same time no problem :)
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Yes I'm aware of that. I was just pointing out that I can't really complain of having an additional LCD port considering there was only one on the DSMC1, even though it limits HDMI output.
 
While the HDMI port issue on the DSMC2 bodies is annoying, it is worth noting that it's basically the same issue that we dealt with on the DSMC1 bodies and somehow we survived (even without OMOD's!)

If you wanted a second Lemo port on an EPIC, the only way to get it was to buy the +1 adapter and sacrifice your HDMI out.

The only difference between the DSMC1 bodies and the DSMC2 bodies is that the +1 module is now "built" into the camera so to speak. So, instead of a hardware adjustment to get that second Lemo port, it's now a software adjustment.

That having been said, I do wish RED had figured out an actual solution to this problem instead of just repackaging the limitation as a new feature (RED heavily marketed the idea that the new cameras will have two Lemo ports on the body, but failed to mention the costs associated.). That type of miscommunication seems atypical for RED and hopefully this can be fixed with a simple firmware update!
 
Great to know there is a solution!
Thanks for the comments and tips.
I had a PRO IO module with my Epic and used it all the time. I look forward to the Redvolt Expander as well as it looks like there will be plenty of connections.
 
Marcus Friedlander said:
That having been said, I do wish RED had figured out an actual solution to this problem instead of just repackaging the limitation as a new feature (RED heavily marketed the idea that the new cameras will have two Lemo ports on the body, but failed to mention the costs associated.). That type of miscommunication seems atypical for RED and hopefully this can be fixed with a simple firmware update!
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Definitely a miss on Red's behalf. Yes great having second option but wish we'd know about the loss of HDMI when using the side connection. We designed our Movi set-up around using HDMI and side pogo - and only way we found out it doesn't work is by firing it up and then finding this thread!!

Can this be solved through a firmware update or is it something that's locked in with current hardware?????
 
Marcus Friedlander said:
While the HDMI port issue on the DSMC2 bodies is annoying, it is worth noting that it's basically the same issue that we dealt with on the DSMC1 bodies and somehow we survived (even without OMOD's!)
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No it's not.

I could mount DSMC1 body with an HDMI transmitter and using a Lemo touch monitor on a Movi M5 handlebar,
now I can't since I can't use the top pogo location since I'm limited by heights of the cage and side pogo is not an option.

Also the top pogo interefere with many configurations (top rods, top handles, accessories etc), side is much better.

As I said I hope a firmware fix is possible/coming...or I will have to sell my great IDX HDMI transmitter and upgrade to a *bigger* and *more expensive* SDI solution...
 
Tommaso Alvisi said:
No it's not.

I could mount DSMC1 body with an HDMI transmitter and using a Lemo touch monitor on a Movi M5 handlebar,
now I can't since I can't use the top pogo location since I'm limited by heights of the cage and side pogo is not an option.

Also the top pogo interefere with many configurations (top rods, top handles, accessories etc), side is much better.

As I said I hope a firmware fix is possible/coming...or I will have to sell my great IDX HDMI transmitter and upgrade to a *bigger* and *more expensive* SDI solution...
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Please reread what I wrote as you seemed to somewhat miss the point on what I was saying. I wasn't talking about single Lemo port setups. I was talking about dual Lemo port setups and how the troubles with DSMC1 bodies are similar to the troubles with DSMC2 bodies.
 
Tommaso Alvisi said:
No it's not.

I could mount DSMC1 body with an HDMI transmitter and using a Lemo touch monitor on a Movi M5 handlebar,
now I can't since I can't use the top pogo location since I'm limited by heights of the cage and side pogo is not an option.

Also the top pogo interefere with many configurations (top rods, top handles, accessories etc), side is much better.

As I said I hope a firmware fix is possible/coming...or I will have to sell my great IDX HDMI transmitter and upgrade to a *bigger* and *more expensive* SDI solution...
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Can this be solved through a firmware update or is it something that's locked in with current hardware?????
 
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