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WARNING: Randy Che

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WARNING: A reduser Randy Che has sold several pieces of equipment on this forum and has misrepresented the equipment to several buyers. Then he no longer responds to emails or phone calls. Be warned if you are considering a transaction with this seller:

Randy Che CSC
Cinematographer
Image Flare Films
+886.975.760.805 - Taipei
+1.604.505.2588 - Vancouver
 
Serial numbers did not match photos sent in advance. In other words he sent me photos of lenses, but shipped different lenses.
Major condition issues not disclosed.
Then he offered a partial refund to resolve the matter, but then failed to send it and now he wont respond to emails or phone calls.

I wouldn't put a warning like this on a public forum lightly. I hope this prevents others from being ripped off.
 
Thanks for the warning.
 
Thanks. will document him in my book as well
 
Thanks for the warning, will stay away.
 
I have no relations to Greg or Randy, nor did I do any business with either one; but things like that happened to me over the last twenty years of internet-use several times. Life can be very unpredictable. More then once, something happened - from death to life changing events - life interferes. And I have been on both sides of the stick.

Since our center of perception is our ego, we usually see ourself in the center of the universe and that's perfectly normal and ensured a smart species to be very prolific over that last two million years. But it also tends to make us blind to the Ego of others, which may not be as useful today, as it was in the days of Mammoths.
In our time and age, where we do business with each other (trading one thing for another), our minds are usually set to Gain. We enter a deal because we believe it to be beneficiary for us. And since that benefit is based on the point of view of the traders, a deal usually resolves in a profit for both parties. Trading is consent in exchange of goods (at least it should be). But since we are all fallible, a deal might end up to be a compromise. And often it does so for both parties at the same time. But since we experience loss, we usually assume the other party must gain more, which makes it look unfair. (I suggest to get into Freakonomics if you are interested in how economics works on a human level)

Since there was an initial intention to resolve the issue, something might have come up that is hindering this resolution. And since in most democratic countries the accused not only has the right to defend himself, but is also considered not guilty until proven otherwise. The TO has neither given any real details, nor is there a time frame (someone not responding for a few days might not be as questionable as someone not responding for several weeks). And should Randy really do business with anyone AFTER this post, then we might assume a more malignant intend on his side and are duly warned - thank you.

By that, I am not saying that Greg did not get scammed, I am saying however, that Randy could feel the same way. This is human nature.


I am just say/writing all this, because I have seen more than one witch hunt in my life, driven by mislead honor, hurt pride, or simple misinformation. So IF you should get into doing business with Randy, you might as well point him to this thread. This will not only give him a chance to tell his side of the story, but can also be an indication whether he is sincere or not - real scammers (especially if they live in western countries, where they can be prosecuted) shy away the moment you call their bluff.
IF on the other hand, other people have similar experience with Randy, please come forward!
 
Patrick,
I debated posting this on several occasions. I can assure you, the issues are clear. It has been 4 months with absolutely no reply from Randy. I have left dozens of messages. The last communication was on 12/9/11, it was an apology and a promise. Neither have been fulfilled. Not even a reply to say "fuck you". Since his last words were a promise to rectify the situation, im going to assume he knows he deceived me. He clearly did as he emailed photos of one item and shipped another.
But, this post isnt about me. Im a big boy and can handle my affairs. This is a warning to others. I have spoken privately to several people on this forum who had similar issues with this seller.

As far as Randy goes, I only hope he finds this thread and explains the situation.

IN THE MEANTIME BE WARNED.
 
Patrick, If the guy scammed he did it. Read Greg's Post again. If you have "NOTHING TI HIDE" call Greg back - MAKING EFFORTS to fixed the harm. Patrick if he was innocent he would be on this post defending himself vigorously. Sure mistakes happy and views differ. Therefore, find a solution to fix it. I'm sure Greg would have some respect for that. It is not okay to attack other so you have a dollar.

There are many ways to fix some hurt of others if you are willing and even if it's to buy back (refund) to save face and humility. This guy was set out to deceive and didn't know he pick a wrong prey that would stand up and speak for himself and warn other. Glad you have Greg people like this need to be identified for other people's sake. This world has gotten so self-centered that any moral values fly quickly out the door when there is a buck involved!!! SAD SAD SAD WHOM ALL WE WOULD HARM TO EARN A DOLLAR!!!!!
 
Apparently Randy Che is logged in right now and viewing this page so hopefully he's going to speak up... And your correct, he is not listed as a member of the CSC.
 
Greg M said:
Patrick,
I debated posting this on several occasions. I can assure you, the issues are clear. It has been 4 months with absolutely no reply from Randy. I have left dozens of messages. The last communication was on 12/9/11, it was an apology and a promise. Neither have been fulfilled. Not even a reply to say "fuck you". Since his last words were a promise to rectify the situation, im going to assume he knows he deceived me. He clearly did as he emailed photos of one item and shipped another.
But, this post isnt about me. Im a big boy and can handle my affairs. This is a warning to others. I have spoken privately to several people on this forum who had similar issues with this seller.

As far as Randy goes, I only hope he finds this thread and explains the situation.

IN THE MEANTIME BE WARNED.
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Patrick, our firm greatly appreciates Greg's post.

Randy is lucky...In the few instances when this appears to be happening with any our our deals, we audio tape the conversations and keep the email exchanges. If it doesn't get rectified, we post the whole correspondence -- amazing how many times that clears up any amnesia that occurs.
 
jimhare said:
I'm not commenting on either side of the argument but this is really funny! :yesnod:
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I think it's rather sad that my call for reasonable fairness - and I had nothing else in mind - is seen as weakness, kitsch or sentimental. It just shows that we are truly homo duplex. But since I don't really care about poor little Brandon, and since this thread is not about me, I won't go any further.

To the rest - especially Greg - I am not questioning your motive, neither do I deny your right to blame a cheater and actually appreciate it. I am just trying to promote caution in such matters, as they often are based on misunderstandings. In such cases, it is often better to stay neutral and not just chastise anybody. 4 month is of course a long time and makes it sound more legit. Randy not coming forth strengthens your claims (although shame can have many forms and weakens the bravest).
Again, my post was not against Greg and not for Randy, just for fairness and the opportunity for both parties to speak up - and if one does not, the other will have truer claim.

Just so you understand what I mean, he a little story:
Several weeks after Andy, a friend and roommate of mine, died in a car accident 2 years ago (drunken driver got him), a letter from the police came, in which he was called in for questioning, being accused of internet fraud.
Apparently he had sold one of his snowboards online. And as it turned out later, he had it fixed in a shop as he had discovered a faulty binding he had not declared in the item description online. He wanted to fix it for the buyer before the sale went through, but it took a little longer then expected until he got it back from the shop.

The guy on the other end must have felt very much like Greg.
He bought something from a guy he never met over the internet... After he had sent the money, the guy tells him that the item was still in the shop (some weird ass story about a loose binding) and after some apologies they came to an agreement that he would get the board in a week, tops! But it never came. The guy did not answer any mails anymore and the money was gone. He must have have been a scammer. Right?

Andy got killed on the way back from a home depot, where he had bought some wrapping material (among other stuff), to ship the board, which he had picked up the same day. Nobody knew.
After clarifying the situation with the police, Andys brother got in touch with the guy who bought the board and sent it to him and returned the money too, for the trouble.
Things like that happen. And this is the reason why I wrote my piece. Our own perspective tends to blind us to that of others - a very bad notion if you are a cinematographer by the way.
We are all the center of our own reality.

There is nothing wrong with what Greg did when he opened this thread, quite the opposite. Greg wants to warn the community and that is rightfully appreciated by others (including me). But forming a lynch mob right away is not a good idea either, is all I am trying to say.
 
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