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Vortex Forms in Norway

Andrew Walker said:
Your not alone man :coolgleamA:

Its hard to say that its a ICBM creating that because missiles don't stay in one place and do that for that long.
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that's why they called it a malfunction.

on the bright side, you're properly armed for the approaching alien hoards.
 
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Zakaree, youve just got me back on to RATM with that video. Time to dig up the collection...
 
As filmmakers, it's definitely MUCH more exciting to believe that this is something other than a Russian missile, it's what we want to believe. Occam's Razor dictates that it's a Russian Missile. That said, I do find it hard to believe its a missile...but none of us are rocket scientists and are unqualified to state as such. To me it looks way too symetrical and perfect, but again Ive never experimented with such things. To me there are 4 possibilities.
1. Exactly what the Russians said
2. Russians are slightly lying, they were testing some military shit and blamed it on a defect that didnt exactly happen
3. Aliens, Jesus, the Antichrist, Wormhole, Black Hole, Interplanetary shit
4. Clever marketing for a product, service or movie. I think it'd be possible to do something like that if you were trying to
 
Miguel "Macgregor" De Olaso said:
The 1st time i saw the photo i though it was a cheap cgi image.
It really looks weird, and when it becomes really dark again it is almost scary.

Anyway i think it´s a missile. The trajectory is quite similar to when rockets go wrong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkT3I6RDPkw&feature=related
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The base smoke is already dissipated and the spiral is not near that perfect as the norway one.

And it's not bright either.

The norway spiral is just really really weird.

Not to mention the base blue spiral that seems connected to the main white spiral.

And the random emissions of black "smoke" that just pops in.

Makes no sense!
 
what the f... is the matter with people.

it is a fancy light show.

it is being projected from the behind the mountain.

and using low cloud as a screen...

you can see this effect every time you go to the cinema..

simple really.................
 
ian dart said:
what the f... is the matter with people.

it is a fancy light show.

it is being projected from the behind the mountain.

and using low cloud as a screen...

you can see this effect every time you go to the cinema..

simple really.................
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If it's that simple, then why did the Russian military come out and claim it to be the result of a failed military missile test?
 
I want it to believe

I want it to believe

my mind that is...

but I have been on to many trips back and forth from San Fransisco or Las Vegas, and seen the remanents of a high altitude missile launch from one of the many military instalations around here.

When you get rocket trails that high, plus add the lensing effect you will get some pretty freaky stuff. The ice crystals in the contrails will bend the already setting/rising sun's (from the viewers perspective) light down back to earth.

And ya, it's all about the perspective when you view it. Sometimes the shape is perfect, other times a disorganized mess.

But it is fun to dream, but after experiencing a couple of these types of effects out here in LA, I knew right away what it was.
 
LOL...looks hilariously fake to me...either it`s some crappy postpro or projection onto the clouds...or something else fakelicious! :D
 
Pietro Impagliazzo said:
The base smoke is already dissipated and the spiral is not near that perfect as the norway one.

And it's not bright either.

The norway spiral is just really really weird.

Not to mention the base blue spiral that seems connected to the main white spiral.

And the random emissions of black "smoke" that just pops in.

Makes no sense!
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It isn't black smoke. It's lack-of-rocket-exhaust leaving the blackness of night where it previously reigned supreme.

If you look at the blue spiral you'll note that it gets broader and diffuser the further along it gets. That's a telltale sign of a high altitude rocket. Watch space launches. You'll note that as it gains altitude and the air thins the exhaust actually gets broader and broader as it nears space.

My prediction as to why it's so symmetrical is that it's either in space or at a very very high altitude which is how it forms such a nice spiral. There would be considerably more drag at low altitude causing the hot and visible rocket exhaust to not spread so widely. Since there is very little air and it's essentially in a vacuum it reduces the turbulence and chaos which low altitude missile failures are subject to.

Remember when they say "missile" they mean ICBM which is really a space craft. It looks like this particular missile made it to a very high altitude before failing.
 
The man is way funny. Always trying to find a rational explanation as he/she could have clue (science?) for everything.
 
Gavin Greenwalt said:
It isn't black smoke. It's lack-of-rocket-exhaust leaving the blackness of night where it previously reigned supreme.

If you look at the blue spiral you'll note that it gets broader and diffuser the further along it gets. That's a telltale sign of a high altitude rocket. Watch space launches. You'll note that as it gains altitude and the air thins the exhaust actually gets broader and broader as it nears space.

My prediction as to why it's so symmetrical is that it's either in space or at a very very high altitude which is how it forms such a nice spiral. There would be considerably more drag at low altitude causing the hot and visible rocket exhaust to not spread so widely. Since there is very little air and it's essentially in a vacuum it reduces the turbulence and chaos which low altitude missile failures are subject to.

Remember when they say "missile" they mean ICBM which is really a space craft. It looks like this particular missile made it to a very high altitude before failing.
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I thought about it, it went so high that it began orbiting and with little effect from gravity it started behaving like that.

That would be the only way for it to behave in this manner.

And why the hell the first spiral is blue?

Doesn't people have telescopes on Norway? I want a close-up photo!

Or just a cropped image from a RED 617 :p.
 
Heh, kind of funny really. A russian rocket comes falling down in a unusual way and people get all freaked out thinking its the end of the world... yeah, Im beginning to understand why religions still exist.
 
Plundstr said:
Heh, kind of funny really. A russian rocket comes falling down in a unusual way and people get all freaked out thinking its the end of the world... yeah, Im beginning to understand why religions still exist.
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makes you wonder how the Norwegians feel...after all, if a Russian rocket came falling down in an unusual way over the US, you can bet people would get all freaked out thinking its the end of the world. even worse, if it were Iranian or North Vietnamese...

so, probably not that funny if you're Norwegian. perhaps they are acclimated...
 
Maybe it was swamp gas reflecting off a weather ballon...right. All I know is that if this was a missile malfunction and malfunctions like this had happened before then there would be some record of it. So where are the other missile tests that have this same thing happening? If indeed it is a malfunctioning missile that the Russians launched.

Matt, I think the question is why it this thing so bright in the sky. Of course this "missile" could have been very high in the atmosphere catching some of the suns rays. But its hard to say this was the case without knowing the location of the sun during the time this was happening. But also what about the trail or beam seeming to come from the ground up to the event. Why is that so bright all the way from the ground to the event. The sun light theory wouldn't work there.

All I know is that when people try and squash a story like this one as fast as they can you know something is up.
 
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