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View factor studios - FF & RED motors

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Just wondering how View Factor Studios are getting on with there Follow Focus for the RED and if they are working on the RED motors.

Will these be available when the camera first ships or would we need to source alternative tools?
 
I am also interested in pricing for these along with the VFS Impero remote control. Just trying to figure out how to spend the remaining $10k that I have budgeted for this year.
 
SuperGrip & MOTORS

SuperGrip & MOTORS

We'll have some more data on the RED SuperGrip and RED MOTOR accessories in the near future. At the moment we are focussed on finishing up the mechanical engineering and camera control software integration.
 
Cvb ?

Rsvp, Pdq, Svp!
 
JDHolloway said:
Cvb ?

Rsvp, Pdq, Svp!
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some VFS motor infos I saved from dvxuser last year....

Motor stats (subject to change):
• Top speed at output gear: 200 RPM
• Torque at output: 210 oz-in
• Voltage/Current: 24V@0.6A per motor
• Communications: Serial/Ethernet/Wifi
• Weight: 225g

The system can be configured with the included remote or via a web interface using your laptop/pda. The system can store and recall a large number of preset positions, velocity/acceleration values can be changed easily on the fly, data can be backed up to a computer for later use.

The setup, which will be showing at NAB 07, will consist of 3 lens motors, break-out box, remote control, all necessary cables/gears and storage case.

3-motor $5,500
 
Wow... that's quite a torque spec.
13.125 ft.lbs. I think that's more than my Honda fifty had. lol
 
24v ?!?!?!?!?!?!!??
 
Curran Giddens said:
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some VFS motor infos I saved from dvxuser last year....

Motor stats (subject to change):
• Top speed at output gear: 200 RPM
• Torque at output: 210 oz-in
• Voltage/Current: 24V@0.6A per motor
• Communications: Serial/Ethernet/Wifi
• Weight: 225g

The system can be configured with the included remote or via a web interface using your laptop/pda. The system can store and recall a large number of preset positions, velocity/acceleration values can be changed easily on the fly, data can be backed up to a computer for later use.

The setup, which will be showing at NAB 07, will consist of 3 lens motors, break-out box, remote control, all necessary cables/gears and storage case.

3-motor $5,500
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Hi Curran,

I've read from Curt that they (VFS) won't be building their own motors any more. But their systems are going to support the Red Motor.
The motors have integrated drivers and don't need a separate box to control them, VFS plans to produce a FF knob that directly interfaces with the motor.
 
I understood that the Red Motor was being built by View Factor, so basically the two products are one and the same.
 
hmm.... I must have missed this info if it was ever posted here on reduser. I hope the system will still be able to store and recall all the data for later use.

Is the VFS Impero remote still in the works?

 
Curran Giddens said:
hmm.... I must have missed this info if it was ever posted here on reduser. I hope the system will still be able to store and recall all the data for later use.

Is the VFS Impero remote still in the works?
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Yes, but they want to finish a few other things first, and as far as I've memorized correctly Curt wanted to open a new thread about the LCS to gain some input regarding specs and ergonomics.
 
Yup, the remote is still in the works but we've been cranking on the moco head and few other goodies first. I'd love to hear what people would like to see in the remote... its since changed quite a bit from what we showed at NAB. I'll post a new thread in a bit that will have the newest design for both the matte box and the remote.

BTW, thanks to Curran and the other 24 people who reserved a Mirus. :)
 
CVB said:
Yup, the remote is still in the works but we've been cranking on the moco head and few other goodies first. I'd love to hear what people would like to see in the remote... its since changed quite a bit from what we showed at NAB.
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Bluetooth, so it can talk directly to our lens mounts.
 
Nailed it

Nailed it

Looks like Curt and Erik are benefactors of the RedOne engineering delays and by extension all of us. With all due respect to the time honored methods of camera operation the forward thinking application of "helper" devices to a camera system like the RedOne are one more reason I feel we are on the cusp of major leap forward.

Perhaps Graeme's magic focus display combined with the super grip will make pulling your own focus viable even with short DoF. For many production situations the operator must do this themselves and may not have the luxury of asking for another take.

Experienced hands have seen the grim results of underestimating the difficulty of holding focus with traditional 35mm optics. Their warnings to the folks who have spent most of their time with low res viewfinders and small chips are real. Here's to hoping that the smart application of advanced tech from View Factor, Birger and others will allow those willing to make the effort to learn, able to drill almost every take.
 
Mark.. Thanks we are really happy with how it came out. We will have several beta units in early September and will be shipping the first 30 units in late October or early November.
 
Hi Curt

I seem to remember August being a date the remote might be shipping...

Is this still the case or has it been pushed back till after you ship the Mirus?
So are we looking at next year?

Just trying to work out schedules so I know what to purchase when.

Regards
Rory
 
Well, the remote has been pushed out a bit, we'll probably be taking reservations on it in August. We're shooting for a ship date before the end of the year and price will be around $1K or less. That seems to be our favorite number around here :)

Erik.... We are currently thinking about using zigbee for the transceiver because the range of off the shelf bluetooth modules is typically about 100 ft. The zigbee can get upwards of a mile in open air and 300-600ft indoors. If we can track down a high power bluetooth transceiver then I'm more than willing to use that instead.

We have gone away from the flat design and have opted for a more ergonomic setup. It will still be modular and components can be moved around. There is an lcd screen that will display all the lens position data and camera data (TBD). The motors auto-calibrate to the lens limits and will automatically calibrate the position data to the lens data once you select a pre-configured lens. If the lens doesnt exist then you can go through a <2 minute setup wizard to setup a new lens. Future firmware on the remote will allow people to share their lens data online so we can get a database of lenses that you can update periodically via the usb or sd slot. The receiver unit that comes with the remote accepts 12-24V and connects to 3 Red motors. There is a usb connection on the receiver for connection to a computer/pda or the camera (integration issues TBD).

We are also working on a lens breathing compensation mode that will basically eliminate breathing on your lenses. The setup for that is a little trickier and I'd expect that the data would have to come from us by setting up a calibration bench of some sort. Basically you would need two motors-one for focus and one for zoom. As you rack focus, the zoom motor will back off or advance to adjust the zoom and keep the framing same through out the shot. We tried it out manually and its looking very promising on the POS fujinon lens we have here. Once we get to that point of testing we may enlist the help of redusers to donate lenses and hardware to get a decent database for everyone to download to their remotes.
 
Curt, I don't see Viewfactor on the exhibitor list for IBC. Are you going to be there? It would be great to see a working prototype of the Mirus, and your other products.
 
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