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View factor studios - FF & RED motors

I remember seeing the Mirius at NAB 3 years ago and was blown away by the price/performance and what it could do (not that I know much about motion control). It seems they have improved the product and brought the price down even more...can't wait to see the end result!
 
Yeah, we've been through a few revisions. Heres the one we showed at NAB 2004.... It ran on windows CE, ran on stepper motors, and had a capacity of 10 pounds. Windows CE was a big mistake, glad were on linux now :)

BTW... We now have a forum up on our site for discussing 3rd party accessories for Red as well as our products. I hate to have two web pages you guys will have to visit daily but it might be a better option than throwing the accessory discussions in the off-topic.
Here's the link: http://viewfactor.net/forum/index.php
 
Insanity

Insanity

CVB said:
We are also working on a lens breathing compensation mode that will basically eliminate breathing on your lenses.
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Curt, that's a big deal. If you need someone to do UI design for the lens data site, I'll trade ya :)

Fantastic.
 
CVB The white disk, and the movable marker on focus controllers is not the car motor crank it is the rim of the steering wheel. The response like Daren's would be overwhelming, if more on this site had pulled focus for a living. Many rental houses are buying the red. Large numbers of these cameras will be used in very high end applications. High end films are focused by experienced professional people. Many indy folks learned to their dismay that when they put the 35mm adapters up, suddenly things got soft. When crewing for my Red camera I would come down on rate for the gaffer (11+ stops) to get the extra money for the 1st.
 
>>>Just trying to figure out how to spend the remaining $10k that I have budgeted for this year.

I'd buy another lens. You can't rent out with just the 18-50 that's on your site.

Chris
 
Chris Stout said:
>>>Just trying to figure out how to spend the remaining $10k that I have budgeted for this year.

I'd buy another lens. You can't rent out with just the 18-50 that's on your site.

Chris
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I think the 18-50 is the only Red lens that will be available this year. Maybe the 50-85 too. The prime lens set probably won't be available until next year.

Here is a quote from the "Madman" himself:

Jannard said:
The 18-50mm CF T3 (f2.8) lens will be available immediately with the shipments of the 1st cameras. The 50-150mm T3 (f2.8) lens will likely be available at years' end. The 18-85mm T3 (f2.8) lens is still in the works. We are hoping for mid-2008. The Prime lens set is scheduled for years' end or 1st of 2008. Hope that helps. Remember, all could change tomorrow. :-)

Jim
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Curran Giddens said:
I think the 18-50 is the only Red lens that will be available this year. Maybe the 50-85 too. The prime lens set probably won't be available until next year.
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Based on what I've tracked from postings by RED Team:

The 18-50 CF zoom will be ready when the first cameras ship.

The 300 prime will be ready when the first cameras ship.

The 50-150 zoom could possibly be ready by the end of 2007

The prime set could possibly be ready by the end of 2007

There is no 50-85 zoom Curran. I assume you meant the 18-85 zoom, which may be ready in mid-2008
 
I would expect more lenses from RED announced before the end of the year.

Actually, I expect RED will drop a few more bombs at IBC this year.

Never a dull moment with the RED GANG!
 
tj williams said:
CVB The white disk, and the movable marker on focus controllers is not the car motor crank it is the rim of the steering wheel. The response like Daren's would be overwhelming, if more on this site had pulled focus for a living. Many rental houses are buying the red. Large numbers of these cameras will be used in very high end applications. High end films are focused by experienced professional people. Many indy folks learned to their dismay that when they put the 35mm adapters up, suddenly things got soft. When crewing for my Red camera I would come down on rate for the gaffer (11+ stops) to get the extra money for the 1st.
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CVB I'm definately with TJ and Darren especiallay having gone from DV to a RedRock Micro with Zeiss Digi Primes on my last Film. Things went soft and when we had to do an eleven minute stedi walk through the focus puller (Ned the man Smith) had to adjust by mark and eye on the FIZ as he had to jump up over the stedi operator to see the talent because he was shorter than the stedi operator.

Just hoping your remote unit will have the option of a movable marker that would interest me greatly. Hope to be using your remote with my RED. Thanks.
 
Curt, I had a little discussion regarding your system with my brother, who is a dop/photographer. He meant that the Impero at a price tag of around 1ooo dollars is literally affordable for everybody, but he remarked that service and repair could be a bit time consuming if the unit has to be sent overseas.
( I know that it is planned to be as sturdy and un-mechanical as possible, but still, shit can happen all the time, like the trouble we had with the minolta D7 that had to be sent for servicing three times within one year... )
 
Easy answer for that kalone. At $1,000 just buy 2 so you have a back up.
 
Finner said:
Easy answer for that kalone. At $1,000 just buy 2 so you have a back up.
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Funny, my brother suggested the same, too...
:-)

p.s.: But what if both units fail to some mysterious reasons?
Please don't tell me to buy three units...
 
Initially I'd expect that there will be some time involved. We are a small company and can only do so much, but in the long term I'd say that we will have distributors that can handle the repair process. The easiest short term solution that I can think of would be that you could call us directly and we would overnight a loaner replacement unit to you until we are able to repair your unit. When your repairs are complete we could send it along with a prepaid box for return. If that doesn't work then you could just buy three ;)
 
CVB said:
Initially I'd expect that there will be some time involved. We are a small company and can only do so much, but in the long term I'd say that we will have distributors that can handle the repair process. The easiest short term solution that I can think of would be that you could call us directly and we would overnight a loaner replacement unit to you until we are able to repair your unit. When your repairs are complete we could send it along with a prepaid box for return. If that doesn't work then you could just buy three ;)
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Hehehe...
that's what I'd call the perpetuum mobile of economics...

- But your initial service plan sounds really good.
 
CVB,

Could you in a few sentences tell us about each product you're developing so we know in whole what you're trying to accomplish? Also if you'd explain what some of the abbreviations in this thread mean if they pertain to your products.

Thanks!
 
Pierce Cook said:
CVB,

Could you in a few sentences tell us about each product you're developing so we know in whole what you're trying to accomplish? Also if you'd explain what some of the abbreviations in this thread mean if they pertain to your products.

Thanks!
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Pierce, Curt and his company has a beautiful forum especially for their systems at www.viewfactor.net (and then follow the links), there you'll find everything about mirus, impero and co.
But it's likely that he'll make a glimpse here and answer directly to you...
 
Pierce,

Mirus: A motion control system with pan and tilt. It allows you to record and repeat camera movements. The system is expandable to include zoom, focus, and iris control. Early next year we will have an option for dolly and possibly lift. The base system includes the head, power supply, cables, and input bar.

Impero: A wireless remote system for the Red Motors. It can control up to 3 motors and works with the Mirus system mentioned above. Since the Red Motors have amplifiers built in, the size of the receiver unit is smaller than a deck of playing cards and weighs practically nothing. The base system includes the remote and receiver unit, cables are probably going to be separately.

Matte Box (sorry no name yet): TBD, we're trying to get a couple other goodies into production then we'll tackle this... My goal is to get it out around the end of November.
 
Matt Uhry said:
Hi CVB,

The Remote looks great !

Could you explain better the idea of skipping the markable focus ring in favor of having presets ? In the situations where you use a remote nothing is preset, everything is changing all the time! crane, steadicam and hand-held.

The focus puller needs an easy to read system as their attention is cycling from the camera position to the subject to the focus disk and back again.

It's never going to work like everybody is on the green set of marks, press the green button.

Add all the cool features you like, but don't skip anything vital and necessary for frou-frou stuff.

I'm a huge fan BTW. If you'd like to discuss further and get in touch with some focus pullers / have a set visit etc. send me a PM.

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com
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CVB, the products look great - can't wait for all of this to come together.

I do, however, have to agree with several posts on this thread, that it seems the white disc and moveable mark would be sorely missed. In my experience, things are constantly changing on set with little or no warning, and yet the expectations are that the entire crew will be ready for anything with no down time between takes. (of course this could vary in different project environments)

Is the FF / motors product meant to be used as a complete solution, or would it be one of your tools in the toolbox for specific shooting styles?

Also, can you describe how the ff would be used in situations where you need to make adjustments on the fly?

thanks - keep up the great work,
 
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