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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

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Well, Were trying to make the whole line up be something that you can incrementally add to (based off feedback from everyone in the forum) and sometimes thats not always conducive to making affordable systems. Part of the reason we are taking so long is that we want to get it right and not have customers blow all their money on the micro or standard just to have to throw it all away when they get the pro. I also don't want people holding off on adopting our stuff while waiting for the pro.

We'll post a few renders of the overall design as soon as I get the opportunity in the next week (we need to have nice renders for the website store anyway)

Here's a VERY old render of the pro version... notice the rough form factor of the impero standard turned sideways. We are looking into some fairly awesome displays and are toying around with the idea of getting the video feed off the camera on the pro as well. This is all in flux but we should an architecture in place before we start taking orders on the Impero Standard.
 
CVB said:
... notice the rough form factor of the impero standard turned sideways. We are looking into some fairly awesome displays and are toying around with the idea of getting the video feed off the camera on the pro as well. This is all in flux but we should narrow down an architecture before we start taking orders on the Impero Standard.
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Ahh ok that makes sense now. Please let me know what you think would be the best way of approaching this for me. As I've stated before I'd like to get 2 micro's and 2 Pro's (to start with) for my cameras. Just want to go out and play with this as soon as possible :) , but also don't want to be to stupid. Then again with the prices that your to sell these for, I should maybe just invest in it all!!!!!! :love: :love: :love:
 
For all those old fashioned types (:wink:) out there that want double sided FF wheels - is it possible to have a knob on both sides that can control the same focus motor? Basically replicating the two sided operation of a mechanical two sided FF rig.

I know it wouldn't take long to unclamp the knob and move it from one side to the other, but if an AC just wanted a traditional setup where they can just grab the nearest control, then they could?
 
ericyoung said:
For all those old fashioned types (:wink:) out there that want double sided FF wheels - is it possible to have a knob on both sides that can control the same focus motor? Basically replicating the two sided operation of a mechanical two sided FF rig.

I know it wouldn't take long to unclamp the knob and move it from one side to the other, but if an AC just wanted a traditional setup where they can just grab the nearest control, then they could?
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for that I imagine the price would double.
 
Curt,

I also have a suggestion. It'd be great to have something a product similar to a Preston Microforce zoom control. This control should also be able to start/stop camera. And if you could make it smaller and fit into Red's handheld config + pan arm, like microforce+oppenheimer panhandle bracket, it'd be just awesome.

Keep up the good work.

ching
 
ericyoung said:
For all those old fashioned types (:wink:) out there that want double sided FF wheels - is it possible to have a knob on both sides that can control the same focus motor? Basically replicating the two sided operation of a mechanical two sided FF rig.

I know it wouldn't take long to unclamp the knob and move it from one side to the other, but if an AC just wanted a traditional setup where they can just grab the nearest control, then they could?
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That may be a bit difficult... the biggest problem I can think of is that the knobs will not be synchronized to the actual motor position, ie one side could say 2 feet, the other could say 20 feet. When you go to move the knob that is not representative of where the motor actually is, the motor will rush to get to the current position indicated by the knob you are turning. The other issue is that the knobs aren't setup to be on a bus (only the motors)... that being the case it may be difficult. I'll put that on the list of things to look into - maybe we can make a simple slave knob that connects to the Impero Micro. Its not a slam dunk easy solution though.

adapmal said:
Curt,I also have a suggestion. It'd be great to have something a product similar to a Preston Microforce zoom control. This control should also be able to start/stop camera. And if you could make it smaller and fit into Red's handheld config + pan arm, like microforce+oppenheimer panhandle bracket, it'd be just awesome.
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Already on it... have a look at the render for the Impero pro that I posted a page back - there is a custom force sensor ala microforce on the remote. The super grip fits that description perfectly but that depends on when it gets into production.

chuck colburn said:
Speaking of two sides, can the drive gear be mounted on either side of the motor?
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Nope, the gear only works on one side of the motor... but we designed it so you can just flip it over.... there are two connectors that are mirror image of one another.
 
CVB said:
That may be a bit difficult... the biggest problem I can think of is that the knobs will not be synchronized to the actual motor position, ie one side could say 2 feet, the other could say 20 feet. When you go to move the knob that is not representative of where the motor actually is, the motor will rush to get to the current position indicated by the knob you are turning. The other issue is that the knobs aren't setup to be on a bus (only the motors)... that being the case it may be difficult. I'll put that on the list of things to look into - maybe we can make a simple slave knob that connects to the Impero Micro. Its not a slam dunk easy solution though...
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Of course - didn't really think it through. Not a big priority for me personally - just thinking out loud. :calm:

If you're already making a square socket for focus whips/speed cranks, would it be possible to make the socket go all the way through the middle? Then all you would need would be a "dumb" extra knob for the other side which could be mechanically coupled to the real "smart" control knob by a square shaft? Keeping it mechanical and simple would keep cost down, and minimise redesign. I imagine not everyone would need this, but an add on extra for those you do.
 
Thats a great idea... unfortunately we are using an encoder that does not have a pass thru... the shaft from the knob basically hovers over the encoder sensor.
Another option is that the whole impero micro pops off with the flick of a lever and takes less than a second to do. Then just run it with the wire over to the other side and have another bracket waiting. If you can't spare the 10 seconds to make the change over then that probably wouldn't work for some people.
 
thomas273 said:
guess you missed my ?

how can I get on the list or purchase the Impero Standard?
I've sent messages? posted in the forums? even called...
no response.....?
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Thomas, I want to apologize... Out toll free number is terrible and I think this is the last straw... I'm calling tomorrow to get a new one lined up so we actually know when we get calls. I just checked and we had over 100 messages that were stored in the voice mail that never got to me.

As for your question, we will be taking orders on the Inclino motors and the Impero Micro next week. Keep an eye on the website and we should have something in place to take your order.
 
End of April or at the latest the beginning of May... Finally got all our resources in order and are pulling the trigger on the components. We are going to be very busy :) Be sure to goto NAB this year.. OK.. just signed up for a new phone service... gotta love the internet. We'll update the web page with our new contact info. Hopefully we won't miss anymore calls now.
 
CVB, would you be willing to go by the earliest RED res# get's served first policy?

I don't want to be stuck at the tail end of a long list because I didn't hop on the order qeue fast enough.
 
Can you machine the Micro so that there is a molded square hole on the front and back? Not a pass through, but essentially a "wrap-around" mechanical connection for a square hole? Then the "dummy side" knob is essentially a focus whip.

So a conceptual question on the Micro: Say I have three motors hooked up. I'm pulling focus and at five feet decide to switch to the zoom to adjust from 20mm to 30mm. I've now rotated the knob 30 degrees. Now I switch back to focus. Does the focus position suddenly whip from 5' to 20'? How does this work?

Mitch
 
Mitch Gross said:
Can you machine the Micro so that there is a molded square hole on the front and back? Not a pass through, but essentially a "wrap-around" mechanical connection for a square hole? Then the "dummy side" knob is essentially a focus whip.

So a conceptual question on the Micro: Say I have three motors hooked up. I'm pulling focus and at five feet decide to switch to the zoom to adjust from 20mm to 30mm. I've now rotated the knob 30 degrees. Now I switch back to focus. Does the focus position suddenly whip from 5' to 20'? How does this work?

Mitch
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Great question.

Another question is, will these work with your moco head? So we could do shots with PTZ and FIZ
 
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