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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

View Factor DFF + Bonus

Beautiful. Definitely xless. Where's the buy now button?? :biggrin:
 
Still little concern about this great development

Still little concern about this great development

Hi all,

I am still concerned about the size of the handwheel and scales.
It LOOKS SMALLish and might have to becomes BIGGER!!!

This was mentioned a couple of times but I can't find any confirmation here or elsewhere. The travel on larger zoom or prime barrels is such that you couldn't translate them onto your FF scale without "closing the circle" and having doubled up marks on them - meaning you have to rotate the thing more than 360 degrees.

It would make SO MUCH sense to stick to an existing scale ring size so we could swap them from an ARRI FF onto View Factor's FF without having to mark up a second set/ size.

I know I am not saying anything new but I am not sure whether Curt & gang are actually taking this onboard.

I would also like to hear a comment on "noise levels" since the youtube demo is giving us an idea and is appreciated - but the motors are clearly audible.

If those concerns could be settled I would get pretty excited about a 3 axis control for a fraction of what others are asking for.

Best of luck and hope to see you at a trade show in Europe some stage this year?
 
CVB said:
As promised here is the diagram that shows a few configurations of the Inclino motors and Impero remote. After talking to hundreds of people it was becoming apparent that everyone wanted to skip the low cost wired remote and hold out for the wireless.... so we've decided to make our first offering have wired and wireless operation.
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Can I safely assume that we can still mount the focus knob on the rods in a conventional configuration?
 
Volker Ehlers said:
I am still concerned about the size of the handwheel and scales. It LOOKS SMALLish and might have to becomes BIGGER!!!
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Like I said in a previous post.... it is bigger. See attached

Volker Ehlers said:
This was mentioned a couple of times but I can't find any confirmation here or elsewhere. The travel on larger zoom or prime barrels is such that you couldn't translate them onto your FF scale without "closing the circle" and having doubled up marks on them - meaning you have to rotate the thing more than 360 degrees.
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We have digital gearing built into our systems so the knob range can be scaled to the lens travel... wrap around will never happen.

Volker Ehlers said:
It would make SO MUCH sense to stick to an existing scale ring size so we could swap them from an ARRI FF onto View Factor's FF without having to mark up a second set/ size.
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ARRI marking rings cost about $20 USD each. Ours will be around $5. I agree that it would be nice to just plop on ARRI scale rings but our mockups looked WAY too big on the camera when you include the electronics housing with buttons.

Volker Ehlers said:
I know I am not saying anything new but I am not sure whether Curt & gang are actually taking this onboard.
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We try to take all suggestions and criticism -in the end there are always trade offs between features and cost to the end customer.

Volker Ehlers said:
I would also like to hear a comment on "noise levels" since the youtube demo is giving us an idea and is appreciated - but the motors are clearly audible.
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I know this is a long thread so I'll say it again.... the noise should not be an issue on shipping units.

Larry McKee said:
Can I safely assume that we can still mount the focus knob on the rods in a conventional configuration?
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Yup.
 
K.Berlin said:
in the video the FF was really loud...did something changed...and will you offer a FF without a motor..
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Yes, we changed the drive train lubrication from grease to oil to eliminate the noise generated from the harmonic drives. We also went with grease filled bearings instead of Oil - the oil filled Bearings were a significant source of noise on the last protos. We're optimistic that the changes will reduce the noise. Just so you guys know... this stuff isn't easy - thats why we've done over 5 prototype versions of the motors :)

So you want a manual FF? Hmm... let us ship what we have on our plate and then we'll take a look at it. We are really trying to make these motors quite enough to use as a replacement for a conventionall FF... there are a number of benefits to a Digital FF, mainly remote operation, infinite gearing possibilities, ZERO backlash etc...
 
another question...will the FF have knobs on both sides? do i have to switch the knob to the other side?

And you are saving some asses with this FF.
 
Per everyones suggestions - yes we will have the ability to have a knob on the dumb side of the camera. Thats going to have to come out a bit after shipping but in the mean time you could just use a standard short focus whip - it will have a 12mm square connection on the back of the unit.
 
Good work Curt. Looking forward to getting some great use out of your equipment.
 
Just placed our order for the Inclino and Impero. We also added the 2.5 ft Red power cable and the 1 ft Bus cable. Just making sure that that's all we need to operate both wired and wireless? I noticed on the image earlier on this thread that there is a Impero receiver before the motor. Is that something that needs to be purchased or am I missing somewhere on the website? Thanks!
 
Strongbad_2Z said:
Impero receiver before the motor. Is that something that needs to be purchased or am I missing somewhere on the website?
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Impero receiver comes included with the Impero.

I spoke with Curt on the phone a little and here's some added info - Curt correct me if I blow it.

D-tap vs. RED power - You can get more power from a D-tap, so if you're powering more than one motor that would be better. T

The RED aux power cable is more convenient since it doesn't need to be disconnected on every battery change. Also - if you're running RED off A/C and want to get rid of the battery you can do that. BUT it won't provide as much power so it should be limited to single motor configurations.
 
joelnet said:
Impero receiver comes included with the Impero.

I spoke with Curt on the phone a little and here's some added info - Curt correct me if I blow it.

D-tap vs. RED power - You can get more power from a D-tap, so if you're powering more than one motor that would be better. T

The RED aux power cable is more convenient since it doesn't need to be disconnected on every battery change. Also - if you're running RED off A/C and want to get rid of the battery you can do that. BUT it won't provide as much power so it should be limited to single motor configurations.
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Thanks! That's what I needed to know. We're just doing one motor configs right now, so we'll be fine with the red power cable. Hopefully when we can afford the motor head we'll also upgrade and get more motors. We're just really excited to have a pretty dang cheap FF and have it be wireless. Thanks guys!
 
joelnet said:
Impero receiver comes included with the Impero.

I spoke with Curt on the phone a little and here's some added info - Curt correct me if I blow it.

D-tap vs. RED power - You can get more power from a D-tap, so if you're powering more than one motor that would be better. T

The RED aux power cable is more convenient since it doesn't need to be disconnected on every battery change. Also - if you're running RED off A/C and want to get rid of the battery you can do that. BUT it won't provide as much power so it should be limited to single motor configurations.
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Close... the DTAP is mandatory if you are running any more than one motor.
 
Hi Curt
1) I want to use a 2,4 GHz analog-video transmitter. I am in Europe in a PAL country. Will there be any interferences with Impero ?

2) I could not find the Rec/Start/Stop button for camera control in the poster. Is it somewere on the back? And I assume, it will work only with Red power cable, not with DTAP Battery cable ?

3) What is the difference between Impero Standard and Pro? Can you post some details? I want to use 2 Inclinos and I am not sure wether I should order Standard or wait for Pro.
 
L2350 said:
Hi Curt
1) I want to use a 2,4 GHz analog-video transmitter. I am in Europe in a PAL country. Will there be any interferences with Impero ?

2) I could not find the Rec/Start/Stop button for camera control in the poster. Is it somewere on the back? And I assume, it will work only with Red power cable, not with DTAP Battery cable ?

3) What is the difference between Impero Standard and Pro? Can you post some details? I want to use 2 Inclinos and I am not sure wether I should order Standard or wait for Pro.
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1) Shouldn't be a problem but depending on the certifications of your transmitter it may interfere - we may have to investigate that and get back to you. The units use encrypted data so I don't foresee any potential for incorrect data but the units may be jammed if the video transmitter is not playing nice.

2) The Rec/Start/Stop button is on the side you cant see. We are tweaking the design up to the last minute with Impero as it is going to be CNC'd for the first batch (the volumes are pretty low compared to the motors). We'll probably tweak the button layout one more time before we ship, I really want everything front and center to avoid any confusion.

3) Impero standard is available in May, the pro will probably be in July or later. Its a much bigger endeavor than the standard so I can't really say when its going to be available. The Standard will control three motors but only one at a time. The pro will have separate controls that will allow you to do all three without using one input device (ie the knob). I'll post more info as it becomes available. There's more info on all this stuff in our forum on our website.
 
Curt. You've mentioned some kind of package deal at an earlier stage with three motors. Is that deal still available and how I can I change my existing order to this deal if still available?
 
The package deal is going to take a bit loner to get in place. We need to get the store functioning 100% then we'll go back and see if we can get that going. We'll try to get it squared away in the next week or so. We'll send out emails to everyone letting them know how to go about changing their orders. We'll also have the info on our webpage and forum. Thanks for baring with us...
 
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