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Jarred Land

Jarred Land

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props to the Vegas team for creating stellar R3D support in Vegas 9... i encourage you all to check it out.
 
I just can't get over the fact that I'm editing, coloring & exporting my Red footage how I want to - without jumping through a dozen hoops to get there. It's been a LOOOONG time coming.

64bit has been rock solid. And in 32bit, using the Magic Bullet looks editor along with all the other CC tools is producing unbelievable results.
 
LOVE the editing ability of this trial version of Vegas 9.0, with the RED footage (just got done directing a couple of projects the past two weekends, and was asked to see if I could edit the footage - coincidentally about the day Sony released Vegas 9!)....

However, I can't render it to save my life now. Keeps saying nearly half way through a render (I've tried WMV, AVI, MOV) that system resources are unavailable, and that my memory is too low. When I go to begin rendering, it's using about 2GB of memory, with each of the cores (quad core processor) averaging around 25% usage .... I come back, and I see this error message, with the GB now reading at 6.2 usage, which is nuts!

I'm running a quad core Q6600 @ 2.4Ghz, with 4GB of ram, even though Windows XP 32bit only recognizes 3GB worth.

Not sure what to do from this point ... looks like my hands are locked, and not sure I want to purchase the software just yet, if I'm having problems with the demo on render.
 
Vegas works ok for me on a lowly Core2 Duo system. I don't fully understand all the ins and outs of the R3D decoding, but it works with no "show-stopping" problems thus far. Note: if you are trying to use Vegas, by all means stop over at the Sony Vegas forums also, there's a lot more Vegas info there than there is here.
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowTopics.asp?ForumID=4
 
i dont have Red, and never will, but just for kicks i downloaded some r3d file, set the project to 4K and dropped the footage on Vegas9 timeline I have 3 y/o HP laptop, underpowered and all, but the 4K footage played well up to the good/auto setting. Even after applying some curve, saturation and contrast i didnt notice any degradation in playback speed/quality. Then i applied Defocus and Glint and that of course did it. But these FX are heavy hitters, in the MB movie looks league. So yeah, Vegas didnt do well here on the playback, as expected thou. I ended up rendering these few sec out as mov file and WMV, all as 1080 24p and it also went well.
So basically if you dont use FX that seriously move pixels around then your playback is smooth.
 
Vegas has always had a very special place in my heart... I started out on Vegas back in the day, and they always have implemented new technologies very well ( remember 24pA? ).

To me it just works the way I like to work. The way they have supported the R3D format, specially on their first attempt, is pretty impressive.

The Vegas team has always been incredibly responsive to me the customer ( even when I was a young punk nobody) and it's something I will never forget.
 
Hi Jarred, not that I'm asking you for Vegas product support (ok, I am...) have you played much with R3Ds in Vegas? Do you know how to render out a file smaller than 4096 pixels across and still maintain maximum quality out of the raw (eg. full debayer)? When I render R3D in Vegas out to a smallish format (eg 640 pixels across) it renders about 10 fps on my measly Core2 Duo (even with project at max quality) meaning it must be using a lower-resolution proxy, and the output looks like it too. When I ask for 4k still frame export, it takes several seconds per frame, and I get the quality I expect from the full process.
 
Jarred Land said:
Vegas has always had a very special place in my heart... I started out on Vegas back in the day, and they always have implemented new technologies very well ( remember 24pA? ).

To me it just works the way I like to work. The way they have supported the R3D format, specially on their first attempt, is pretty impressive.
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Well said.
 
Yep. Used it since Sonic Foundry Vegas Video 2.0. Very slick and easy to use. Was very stoked(and surprised) when I got the email saing native RED support in Vegas 9. Now I HAVE to buy a Scarlet. Doh!:)
 
Jarred Land said:
The Vegas team has always been incredibly responsive to me the customer ( even when I was a young punk nobody) and it's something I will never forget.
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Jarred, as the dark demi-god of THE most bitch'n camera company in the world today, who has the most awesome job in the world, expect next to Jim himself, I still think of you as a young noboby punk. But I say that with the greatest of respect, from one young noboby punk to another. :beer:
 
"the 4K footage played well up to the good/auto setting. Even after applying some curve, saturation and contrast i didnt notice any degradation in playback speed/quality"

Vegas playback defaults to "auto adjust size & quality for optimal playback" , so you might select GOOD -auto but it will switch to (guessing for a laptop) Preview auto ( 1/4) .. after you select the good -auto ..hit play and see if it changes to preview auto then when you hit STOP it will switch back to good auto ...
if you want to change this .. right click in the middle of the Vegas preveiw window and uncheck adjust size & quality ..
 
donatello,
I thought i changed the playback settings just as you described.
I have a question though, can you render out 4K?
 
i have no codec installed at the moment that will render to 4k ...
i haven't tried uncompressed ??

i see when i try to render out to HD.avi i can't because it uses cineform and it says no license so i'm beginning to think that the trial version doesn't let you use cineform and guessing when you get your V9 serial number based on the difference flavors of cineform it will only do 1920x1080 with Vegas unless you buy the cineform 4k software ( just guessing ??)

i do have a 4k to blu ray rendering at the moment ...
also haven't tried DPX etc ...
 
When I was a NAB, Douglas Spotted Eagle said VASST was looking into creating something similar to Gearshift to do R3D proxies.
 
Ok. So i have Vegas Pro 9.0c (Build895) 64-bit. Vegas recognizes R3D-files, but when i drag them into the timeline the preview window shows only black. With play or just positioning on a specific frame.

I don't know which build. Just downloaded a R3D file from Scarletuser for testing. Running on an i5 720 6gb ram with GT220 1gb videocard.

What am i not doing right?
 
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