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Using Monkey Extract and Avid metadata

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Todd Groves

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I'm doing visual effects for a film shot on RED and edited on Avid. I found that Monkey Extract can take an EDL to render out DPX sequences. However I don't want to render out the entire film to DPX, just the scenes I'm working on. Does anyone know how to do this using Monkey Extract? Or if there's another program that allows such control, please let me know.

Thanks in advance.
 
Have you read the Workflow guide on www.avid.com/red?
You take a SCAN XML from Avid FilmScribe and run it through Monkey to create the DPX files.

Michael
 
Todd, just create a new sequence in Avid containing only the shots you need and generate a new EDL for that.
 
I have through the workflow info. I think what Austin suggested may be the best approach as I know the editor doesn't know how to create DPX sequences.

I'll have to sit down with the editor and work through it as there are some shots that have be 4K for VFX needs. It looks like Monkey Extract will help a lot.
 
Avid FilmScribe is not dongle protected, and many DI houses have a copy on hand in order to create lists in their own to meet their needs to avoid any miscommunication. It is on Mac and Windows. More info on FilmScribe can be found at www.avid.com/filmscribe



Michael
 
At the risk of sounding daft... Filmscribe allows me to hand pick my shots, and create my own EDL? The description of Filmscribe on Avid's web site is more a sales pitch and doesn't go into details of how it works. The editor is on a Mac like me, so maybe he can help me with Filmscribe.
 
FilmSribe is a list generation tool. Open Avid bins and generates cutlists, pull lists, optical lists, Scan lists, change lists, as TAB, HTML, XML, etc. It us used on every festure film edited on Avid if changes are lists are are needing to be tracked.

Michael
 
So, basically, I can open an EDL with Monkey Extract, point it to the RED files and it will generate the DPX sequences for me? Does it automatically create folders for each take?

:beatdeadhorse5:
 
Todd Groves said:
So, basically, I can open an EDL with Monkey Extract, point it to the RED files and it will generate the DPX sequences for me? Does it automatically create folders for each take?

:beatdeadhorse5:
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yes, you can put every dpx from a reel in one folder, or have sub folders for each take. try the demo from my footer...
 
Thanks, Nigel. I've downloaded and installed Monkey Extract.

To test it I created an EDL from Final Cut using the Quicktime reference movies placed in FCP timeline. I launched Monkey Extract, and it asked for Redline. I've installed Red Alert on my laptop; which I believe will work as well as Redline, but that's in the shop at the moment.

Just now I tried to download Red Alert and I was asked for an email address and a password. Which is strange since I downloaded Red Alert before and it was an instant download without a prompt for anything. So I just wrote an email to RED in hopes they can straighten that out.

:emote_headwall:
 
Todd Groves said:
Just now I tried to download Red Alert and I was asked for an email address and a password.
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The new (build 21) version of Red Alert is currently password protected, but if you click 'Release History' you can download the previous version without a password.
 
Thanks, Nick.

Now I just have to convince the director to cough up the $349 for a full license of Monkey Extract.

When I brought up the subject of DPX sequences with the editor, he told me he would give me the metadata because he doesn't know how to render DPX with what he has.

Unless there's another solution for outputting DPX sequences besides Monkey Extract.

EDIT: Can Red Rushes generate DPX from Quicktime reference movies? If so, can I tell it to render 4K and 2K?
 
Todd Groves said:
Thanks, Nick.

Now I just have to convince the director to cough up the $349 for a full license of Monkey Extract.

When I brought up the subject of DPX sequences with the editor, he told me he would give me the metadata because he doesn't know how to render DPX with what he has.

Unless there's another solution for outputting DPX sequences besides Monkey Extract.

EDIT: Can Red Rushes generate DPX from Quicktime reference movies? If so, can I tell it to render 4K and 2K?
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You can render DPX from Redcine. The only issue is, you have to manually choose which shots to render, and it will render the entire shot. The advantage of Monkey Extract is that it only renders what's in the timeline.
 
So, does RedCine look at the metadata to allow me to pick shots?

BTW, are there user manuals for the RED apps? The support page only provides links to downloading the apps.
 
There are no formal applications for the RED applications.

Michael
 
Todd Groves said:
So, does RedCine look at the metadata to allow me to pick shots?

BTW, are there user manuals for the RED apps? The support page only provides links to downloading the apps.
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Redcine looks at the metadata - which is things like color temperture and iso.

Metadata doesn't let you pick shots, to do that you export an EDL from your avid.
 
So my next question is; which of the RED apps reads EDL's? Or do I still need something like Monkey Extract? None of the RED apps seem to come with a manual, so I have to ask.
 
Also, I meant to say "no formal" documenation for RED applications... there are formal applications. ;)

Michael
 
REDCINE is the only one that can read an XML. The XML can be created from the SCAN list, but can be problematic is files have moved etc.

Michael
 
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