User Preset buttons - Build 16

[Warren Kommers]

I think this requires to have a different formated media...:mail1:

Not if your project frame rate is the same.

 

[Antoine Baumann]

Jarred,

Does it seem like it may be possible in future builds for say.......... the EVF to be "normal" and the LCD for the 1st AC to be in "colored edge focus"? Do the display pathways allow that separation?

Can't False Color and all these display setting be integrated to the monitoring device buttons? Like the EVF and LCD. That way when you change it only effects that device and not the making the director see false color as well.

I agree that it's important to have it but just in a more appropriate place. If it's possible.

If you can do that, then it will be perfect: different output with different monitoring option. Like DP looking to the linear light, 1er AC color edge higlight, and director to rec709 (with different LUT selectable) out of the HD-SDI.

I would say, 1er AC look to the red lcd, so I would put a toggle between normal view with menu, full screen without menu and 2:1 zoom on the first button of the LCD, and toggle normal view (rec709) and edge highlight on the second button of the LCD.
DP look through the EVF, so toggle between normal view with menu, full screen and 2:1 zoom on the first button of the EVF, toggle between linear light, normal view (rec709) on the second button of the EVF, and toggle between normal view (rec709), color exposure assist and monochrome view on the third button of the EVF.

For the side button, let me think about it and will come back to you...

ciao,
antoine.

 

[Jarred Land]

different monitoring overlays for different outputs is not there yet.. except for the LCD zoom in on the LCD, you can do that independent of the HDMI/HD-SDI outputs.

 

[Joel Kaye]

I would say, 1er AC look to the red lcd, so I would put a toggle between normal view with menu, full screen without menu and 2:1 zoom on the first button of the LCD, and toggle normal view (rec709) and edge highlight on the second button of the LCD.

I think this highlights the idea that people would probably like to jump between 2 totally different screens quickly as opposed to just wanting to toggle one item on or off with a button.

Being able to build a screen and assign it to a button is the way to go. And yeah that might take an XML file (and perhaps a gui to create that file eventually) but the idea itself is very RED.

Maybe that's a later build, but that's the proper direction IMHO. For now, if I could assign edge focus, false color and edge focus with 2x I'd be happy.

Also, I definitely would like adjustable edge focus colors and intensity. I've noticed different lenses, focus distances and subjects react differently to the assist making some very tough to nail.

 

[Nils Ruinet]

different monitoring overlays for different outputs is not there yet..

Wait, you mean it's possible and it's coming in a future build ?
That would be great news !
Like "normal image" in the EVF and False color or Edge detail on the Red LCD for the camera assistant ? And a LUT for the HDSDI Output...

 

[Jarred Land]

anything is possible.. but don't count on it.

 

[Emery Wells]

anything is possible.. but don't count on it.

Not sure if its been mentioned elsewhere but the really critical feature im looking for is to independently control which outputs contain the GUI. If this is a ways off, please give us timecode and frame guides back on the HD-SDI output when both the LCD and EVF are plugged in. I've been renting HD-SDI onboards because the DP of course wants to use the EVF, the AC wants a monitor for focusing, and the clients/director/script supervisor MUST have TC and frame guides up.

 

[Todd Jones]

I really like the option of different frame rates as well as switching between 4k/3k/2k, which I do not think is an option at this point.
TJ

 

[cinemano]

Id love it if the preset button could be frame rates.. 120, 60, 24 etc..
2k, 3k, 4k.. hum.. but then again onre has to reformat the cards each time anyway... wait.. theses questions are for build 16? aww. that means theres a lot more time to wait

 

[HD Hildebrand]

button 1 toggles through the top 8 needed choices.

button 2 selects the sub-categories withing those top choices and locks in selection.

 

[Pawel Achtel]

Button 1: 1:1 crop for focusing
Button 2: Enter/Exit SLEEP MODE :innocent:

 

[Jay A. Kelley]

Jarred.

How about approaching this from a different perspective. Why not allow the menus to stay as they are, but then you can "hot button" a selection you are currently on... Think of it like this: Your in the project menu, then you select 2K as your resolution, then you press side buttons 1 & 2 together, which tells the camera to copy the selection you are currently on. Then press the button you wish to assign it too. and that selection get's a highlight or something (In a perfect work, a small number like S1 (Side button -1) would appear next to what you just marked.

Now you can go to varispeed, set up your frame rate, and then go the the varispeed check box. Press buttons 1&2 again, and then button two.

So now button one will give you 2k, and button 2 will engage varispeed for whatever you set it up for.

Of course with a system like this, there would be no additional menu, as you could literally set the buttons up do to a number of commands in any way you wish. Of course you would be limited to 6 of them.. but you would have ultimate flexibility. A checkbox type selection would be on/off with the button. So you''d get two commands out of that one.

I am guessing this is a LOT more work than you had in mind.. So I would go with various on screen things, and some macros that would quickly set the camera up to a few different high speed settings.

Hope this helps

Jay

 

[Isaac Babcock]

Button one: 2k and 3k varispeed presets: shooting 4k @ 24fps, hit once: 3k @ 50 fps, hit twice: 2k@100fps, hit third time: back to 4k @ 24fps

Button two: SLEEP MODE - someday I dream- I've shed tears over missing action waiting for the camera to start.

thanks for asking...

 

[Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock]

I dont understand this need to change resolution or framerates so often.

And the possibilities for pilots error are enormous when its on a button right next to your false color toggle.

Cheers,

Jochen

 

[Antoine Baumann]

I dont understand this need to change resolution or framerates so often.

And the possibilities for pilots error are enormous when its on a button right next to your false color toggle.

Cheers,

Jochen

why not project frame rate change on the first side button on the camera and format magazine on the second :devil:

just joking ;-)

ciao,
antoine.

 

[Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock]

Yesss..... the suicide configuration.

)

Jochen

 

[Pawel Achtel]

... and format magazine on the second :devil:

Brilliant!

 

[Isaac Babcock]

I dont understand this need to change resolution or framerates so often.

And the possibilities for pilots error are enormous when its on a button right next to your false color toggle.

Cheers,

Jochen

Wildlife shooting - quick slo motion (no pun....) just my 2 cents...

 

[Joel Kaye]

Wildlife shooting - quick slo motion (no pun....) just my 2 cents...

Yeah, I can see the value of hitting a button and going from 4K 24fps to 2K 120FPS quickly. In "wild" situations something may come up that would benefit from slow motion that you didn't anticipate.

I like Jay's idea about memorizing the current menu selection to a button. Perhaps there's a way to memorize the entire screen and assign it to a button.

 

[Ziggy Uszkurat]

Good take button

Good take button

I would really like to have a button to mark the last take as GOOD. Please consider...

TIA
Ziggx