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USB 3.0 and New Firewire in next Mac Pro/iMacs

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On Macrumors there was a report that the new Mac Pros and iMacs will have USB 3.0 and possibly Firewire 3200.

If the iMacs get these, it'll definitely be the best system for indie film makers. I know I'm hoping for it. And it'll definitely be a long overdue update for the Mac Pros.

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/16/...-mac-pro-imac/
 
fcp mentioned at iphone4 press conference

fcp mentioned at iphone4 press conference

on the subject of apple's treatment of prousers, i also thought it was interesting how among steve job's praise of all the "i" products, he also included final cut pro as an important part of apple's product userbase.

it's not much and could just be lip service but i really do think that apple execs are beginning to loudly hear a message they've been trying to ignore from their pro consumers for some time now.
 
Hello,

It would be embarrassing if they released the new towers without USB 3.0 but I would be exceptionally amazed if we they came with FW3200. I don't think there is anyone even producing silicon of the IEEE spec.

With Apple taking the designs for Lightpeak to Intel for co-development, Intel would be .. annoyed .. to have Apple pushing a competing plug to USB 3.0.

Best,

ATF
 
I agree Light Peak is what will forgo USB3 on new mac stuff
 
Macs will get USB 3 support pretty much automatically next year, because Intel is going to integrate it into their chipsets.

The question I have is if they'll keep FireWire around once USB 3 and Light Peak are available. It would be nice if they did, at least for a couple of years -- there are a lot of FW800 drives kicking around in this industry, and it would be annoying to have to lose a slot to a FireWire card in order to connect them.
 
Hello,

Intel is talking late 2011 for USB 3.0 integration while they are talking up Light Peak hardware being available for integration by late 2010. Hopefully someone is going to pick up the slack and get a USB 3.0 driver out for OS X as it won't be Apple or Intel providing it.

CalDigit said they are shipping out a new external chassis with a USB 3.0 card and driver for OS X this fall.

ATF
 
Andrew T Foster said:
Hello,
Intel is talking late 2011 for USB 3.0 integration while they are talking up Light Peak hardware being available for integration by late 2010.
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But I wouldn't expect Apple to do another Mac Pro revision this year.

Andrew T Foster said:
Hopefully someone is going to pick up the slack and get a USB 3.0 driver out for OS X as it won't be Apple or Intel providing it.

CalDigit said they are shipping out a new external chassis with a USB 3.0 card and driver for OS X this fall.
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Sure, there will no doubt be third-party cards pretty soon. But as far as I'm concerned the chief application of USB 3 to our market is freeing up precious slots or connecting fast storage and/or video I/O interfaces to machines without any slots. So a USB 3 PCI-E card doesn't help much.
 
Chris Kenny said:
Sure, there will no doubt be third-party cards pretty soon. But as far as I'm concerned the chief application of USB 3 to our market is freeing up precious slots or connecting fast storage and/or video I/O interfaces to machines without any slots. So a USB 3 PCI-E card doesn't help much.
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BINGO !
 
Craig Schober said:
on the subject of apple's treatment of prousers, i also thought it was interesting how among steve job's praise of all the "i" products, he also included final cut pro as an important part of apple's product userbase.

it's not much and could just be lip service but i really do think that apple execs are beginning to loudly hear a message they've been trying to ignore from their pro consumers for some time now.
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Nope. Apple has ignored Pro customers for years. Look at QuickTime if you have any doubts. Jobs has no idea what constitutes a professional-grade application, and Apple makes a practice out of ignoring both customers and its own people. You don't get a stagnant user experience like Apple's if you're listening to customers.

And now Apple is abandoning real computing in favor of phone apps that it doesn't have to maintain. You'd best be advised to wean yourself of Apple products as soon as possible.
 
Palmer Woodrow said:
And now Apple is abandoning real computing in favor of phone apps that it doesn't have to maintain.
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What is the basis for claims like this? The current Mac Pro is the most expandable system Apple has had on the market in 12 years.

On the software side, Apple had essentially two alternatives after shipping Final Cut 7: 1) do a major multi-year overhaul of Final Cut to port it away from Carbon and legacy QuickTime or 2) entirely abandon the video editing market. We haven't heard about the latter occurring, and we would have it if actually were. That means the former must be occurring. And the former is something that you'd expect to take several years. And given that this is Apple, you'd expect them to be completely silent about it until shortly before the ship date.

In other words, nothing we have seen over the last couple of years is in any way inconsistent with Apple doing pretty much exactly what it should be doing with Final Cut. If they still have nothing in 12 months, I'll start getting a little worried. If they still have nothing in 18, I'll assume something went wrong somewhere. But given the scope of a project like porting FCP to modern APIs, Apple's silence is not yet long enough to imply things are off track.

With respect to the desktop generally, and fears that Apple now cares more about iPhones than Macs... I've been watching Apple pretty closely for the entirety of the second Jobs era. I've got a pretty good feel for these things. And I think Apple is up to something with the Mac.
 
Here's an interesting development. Sony prototypes a USB3 camera that records HD 1080P60 direct to hard drive: http://bit.ly/USB3Camera

Point_Grey_USB3_proto_perspective_closeup.jpg

Now imagine a RED on the end of that cable, and a Mac (or god forbid an iPad!) on the other...

From their site:

"We have no plans to release this particular prototype camera as a product. We built it solely as a technology demonstration to showcase the benefits of SuperSpeed USB (USB 3.0). We have no plans to make it available for sale.

"USB 3.0 will be a key digital interface in the imaging and vision industries in the years to come. By introducing the world's first USB 3.0 camera, we are demonstrating that Point Grey is at the forefront of innovation in imaging (which just happens to be our corporate tag line) and that we are committed to the advancement of USB 3.0 technology. We also hope to raise awareness within the computer and machine vision industries of the performance benefits of SuperSpeed USB."​

Interesting to see how quickly other manufacturers get in on this.

It certainly heralds the death of the DSLR. :emote_happyhappy: Philip Bloom will have to find another job!

And it's also great news for low-budget 3D folk! You can put two of these together with the proper i/o of 2.5" (something you can't do with DSLR). In fact it looks like you can get them even closer. In fact, you can put them at any distance you want! And goodbye to those cumbersome mirror rigs!

Thoughts?
 
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