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Upgrade Modules only for Epic-X? Why?

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Mark B. said:
Why is it that upgrading to the Epic-X will get us the CF/Battery/IO modules, but not if we upgrade to one of the other Epic cameras?
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I'd say it is because you bought a camera that was still in beta stages of development. The Epic X is the final evolution of the product... the gold release, if you will. Red was simply allowing you to get your hands on the product early to your mutual benefit because the beta was so very functional, but they knew it would take quite a while to polish. That is how I read it, anyway.
 
Personally, I'd like to see more details about the RED One to Epic-X upgrade program as well as the date of shipping of the FF35.
For me, it might make more sense to just upgrade our One and then later take the plunge into the Monstro. It's all quite up in the air, of course, but more information on likely shipping dates would be amazing. We are starting to shoot our next film in almost exactly one year and I'd really like to shoot it using the latest and greatest technology RED has to offer.

Stephen
 
After shooting with my R1 for 14 months - I have zero complaints. In fact I've never been treated this good by any company - camera or otherwise.

But I must say it would be really great if we could choose the FF35 Epic and receive the X bonus items... really, really great.
 
One item I have not seen discussed is whether moving from an S35-sized sensor to the FF35 sensor will mean having to purchase (or rent) a whole new kind of lens. Will a DP be able to rent the set of Super Speeds they love?

Cine lenses are made for a smaller sensor/aperture (24.5mm wide or so) than are 35mm still lenses. Will most of the existing cine lenses cover the larger frame size of the FF35 (36mm)?
 
I find it absurd to complain about the upgrade options.

If one bought an Altima and then Nissan said, we will let you trade it back in for a full original retail price credit towards this years Altima, would one then complain than one could not get that Altima trade in towards a 370z?
Oh but with the comfort trim package from the Altima deal.

A company offers an unprecedented level of client appreciation and monetary consideration and people continue to complain.

Amazing.

I am not singling anyone out, just sharing my shock.
 
J. Eric Camp said:
would one then complain than one could not get that Altima trade in towards a 370z?
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You know they would...

And yes, I'm shocked that people are complaining. We've been given several very generous upgrade paths as a reward for being RED One owners. And yet it is never enough for some.
 
Mark B. said:
again (resale on Epic-X will incur a financial hit for most).
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I highly doubt that. The Epic-X will have a collectors value attached to it, as it is only available to Red One owners. There will be people interested in picking it up even at full price. Plus considering that it will come with several hundred (several thousand?) dollars worth of modules, it'll definitely at least hold it's value, if not sell for more.
 
I gotta say too, that I'm 99% sure I'll be trading in my R1 for an Epic X asap!

The free modules are just way too good a deal to pass up. I think down the line, even if I sell the X brain at a loss, the $$$ I make with it for 6-12 months plus not having to buy the modules will more than justify the cost to upgrade:)
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
You know they would...

And yes, I'm shocked that people are complaining. We've been given several very generous upgrade paths as a reward for being RED One owners. And yet it is never enough for some.
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Exactly. I mean look at Ketch's post about Canon. RED could have easily made the Red One, then wait a year and come out with a Red Two that is pretty much a Red One with Build 16, then come out with a Red Three six months later that does 4.5K, then an Epic with 5K a few months later.

That's three different cameras in the same camera, and then a complete trade in value for Epic. You don't see Canon doing anything like this do you?
 
Jerrod Cordell said:
Exactly. I mean look at Ketch's post about Canon. RED could have easily made the Red One, then wait a year and come out with a Red Two that is pretty much a Red One with Build 16, then come out with a Red Three six months later that does 4.5K, then an Epic with 5K a few months later.

That's three different cameras in the same camera, and then a complete trade in value for Epic. You don't see Canon doing anything like this do you?
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Totally my point :)! This is why my money will well spent at the RED Store from now on,
an so the money of those I know that I can put some sense in to, which I believe it will be very easy to do.
 
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