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Hey Mark & Johnny,
Thanks for posting your thoughts on the housings from the Palau shoot! I enjoyed reading about your real life experience with each rig and all of the pro's and con's. If I could ask another question, how did the Gates manage in the water as far as being positive, neutral, and/or negative? I know it might vary depending on which lens you were using but just wanted to get a ball park sense. Thanks in advance.
-Jason
 
Hi Jason,
The Gates has a selection of different trim weights and a gazillion possible places to locate them within and around the housing itself. You can also get buoyancy tubes from the company if your system, with your required lens, lighting etc, becomes too heavy. We had the system dialed in Palau. Johnny worked mainly with that system so maybe he would best be suited to answering you on that. I can only attest to the few times I used the system, mostly though I was handing it over to his holiness....

Cheers,
Mark.
 
Jason Sturgis said:
Hey Mark & Johnny,
Thanks for posting your thoughts on the housings from the Palau shoot! I enjoyed reading about your real life experience with each rig and all of the pro's and con's. If I could ask another question, how did the Gates manage in the water as far as being positive, neutral, and/or negative? I know it might vary depending on which lens you were using but just wanted to get a ball park sense. Thanks in advance.
-Jason
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Hey Jason,
the gates housing was slightly positive with both the red 18-50 and the zeiss 14mm Mk2 T2.1 lenses [i'd say about 5-7lbs]. All it took in order to trim out the "deep red" was a few trip weights (supplied by gates). There are places inside the housing where you can mount some 3-5lbs of small weights via velcro. you can also utilize the dovetail grooves on the outside of the housing to get some final trim on the housing again with these small 1/2lb trim weights--nice thing about the "dovetail" trim weights is that after velcro'ing on weights inside of the housing, you could then trim it out perfectly with the outside "dovetail" weights so housing was not only neutral, but so that it was not front or tail heavy.
 
CoralSeaTV said:
RE: Footage from the Palua shoot.

You know that 10 minute RED promo movie that was played at this years NAB and is available to download in the Jim Jannard thread. It has a superb jelly shot that looked like it was from Jellyfish Lake in Palau. So I figured it was a shot from this shoot. No?

George
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Shot by me and my crew in Alaska - it is a moon jelly smack with a lions mane jelly in the foreground. Same ocean different day.

Sharky
 
RED footage, not from jellyfish lake...

RED footage, not from jellyfish lake...

Hi,

All this talk of posting RED u/W footage. Here is a link to some shots from the first test dives with my new U/W RED rig. Not shot in Palau unfortunately, but Sydney Harbour and surrounds. The sea was not the best and I know it is hard to see the RED magic, but to me it is exciting to be shooting at this level and I am really looking forward to getting some footage in good clear conditions. And maybe even using an Arri 14mm prime rather than the RED 18-50mm as we used for this footage.

The footage is at:

http://www.coralseatv.com/html/body_red_test.html

Thanks

George
 
sharkguy said:
Shot by me and my crew in Alaska - it is a moon jelly smack with a lions mane jelly in the foreground. Same ocean different day.

Sharky
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Ahhha, well there ya go. Straight from the dude who shot the sequence.

Cheers,
CamDiver
aka the most sunburnt Mushroom in the dung heap.
 
Link please?

Link please?

CoralSeaTV said:
RE: Footage from the Palua shoot.

You know that 10 minute RED promo movie that was played at this years NAB and is available to download in the Jim Jannard thread. It has a superb jelly shot that looked like it was from Jellyfish Lake in Palau. So I figured it was a shot from this shoot. No?

George
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Do you have a link to Jannard's post with this clip?

thanks,
Amund
 
Sorry to hack a post in here guys but everyone reads this thread. : )
I would love to ask a few rental/rental-operator rate questions to people with an R1 package in the Fargo ND/MI area. Looking for someone with ice diving experience and their insurance on their gear.

Please PM me and don't respond on the thread I don't get yelled at.



Aside from that, why is it that production insurance won't cover damage to rented equipment if you have under-water stuff? I thought you'd just have to include it ike a stunt...?
 
Cannot bring up REDone Palau report..help

Cannot bring up REDone Palau report..help

Hello from Canada,I am receiving my Aquavideo red one housing shortly,would love to read Palau,s red report,I have filmed there 3 times in past 20 years.
Can anyone give me the proper email to bring up this report thanks Jim Kozmik Blue Realm Tv series.
 
Hi There Jim Kozmik here from the cold north in Canada..I have plenty of under ice time,and will have a redone housing in next 10 days I hope,,what can I do for you..contact me at...Kozmikunderwater@gmail.com
 
A sign of the times. The people here will know the names.

Tonight I had dinner with some friends and in attendance were Iconic underwater film makers Ron and Valerie Taylor as well as Stan Waterman. In conversation with Ron Taylor I noticed that he was so buzzed about the fact that he had just bought a new fangled camera that no longer had a tape drive but a hard drive. This was the first camera he had bought that used HDD technology as opposed to tape. It just shook me that here was a guy who filmed such amazing sequences as seen in 'Blue Water, White Death' and 'Jaws' as well as many memorable documentaries way back in the 60's and 70's who is well into his 60's and yet still embraces this new technology. Its an amazing thing to see these guys excited to go on a dive to film Nudibranchs!

Just struck me as great.

Cheers,
Mark.
 
Lensing Options for Shark Shoot

Lensing Options for Shark Shoot

I was just approached by National Geographic to go off the island of Guadeloupe to shoot some Great Whites for their series on Migrations. They liked the Angenieux 15-40mm, but really wanted to go wider(wider the better). We're using the gates housing in shallow clear water(day time shooting), any suggestions?
 
Bmoreshaun said:
I was just approached by National Geographic to go off the island of Guadeloupe to shoot some Great Whites for their series on Migrations. They liked the Angenieux 15-40mm, but really wanted to go wider(wider the better). We're using the gates housing in shallow clear water(day time shooting), any suggestions?
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not really wider = better. But if you want nice results, then the zeiss 8r is splendid as some agree. BUT, you need the animal very close to you in order to give you ANY perspective.

I'd prefer 15-40 if i had it in my arsenal. But are you using the "deep red" housing? if so, then do they have a port extension for that lens? long and heavy.

if using "deep red" then a zeiss 14mm prime is excellent for wide shots, then use something like the 18-50 for close shots at the middle to end of its range. Not a lot of lenses out there at this very moment that you can plop on the red in a housing that I can think of---those mentioned above seem to be a pretty good variety that we had luck with shooting u/w.

At the moment, using a zeiss 16mm ultra prime with the ET housing in AK and really like the ultra prime results. But the ET housing will ONLY work (gears) with ultra primes at this time.
 
Bmoreshaun said:
I was just approached by National Geographic to go off the island of Guadeloupe to shoot some Great Whites for their series on Migrations. They liked the Angenieux 15-40mm, but really wanted to go wider(wider the better). We're using the gates housing in shallow clear water(day time shooting), any suggestions?
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I have a Zeiss 10mm T2.1 available for rent which is phenomenal - I'm starting to think the 10 with an extra stop of light over the 8R at 2.8 might be the best overall solution for PL underwater. It is physically a little bigger so don't know if it fits in the Gates. (It does fit in ours with the glass dome optional frontplate.)

I would (mildly) disagree with Johnny - wider is generally better (obviously to a point). A 15mm on RED is equivalent to a 24mm on full frame slr and 14 would be 22.4 and about like a 6mm on an F900 or Varicam. Neither of those focal lengths would be considered "PRO" wide angle for stills and "modern" i.e. post-2000 video is normally shot with a 4.5mm or 4.7mm Canon or Fujinon wide zoom on broadcast/cine camers. Or the equivalent wide is used on most prosumer Gates, AquaVideo, Amphibico, L&M etc. housings for Sony Z1 and the like. You will have to get close - but that's always been kind of the key for underwater.

Arri Zeiss 10mm and 12mm lenses are widely available. The new Tokina 11-16 duclos PL should be excellent as well on PL. But the same lens in Canon mount sells for $599 and birger is available now. I believe the great majority of current housing owners will be using Canon 10-22 or Tokina 11-16 this summer.
 
Mike,

Do you have a practical solution for controlling the Birger through the housing? Is there an external housing available for the Empiro or similar?

Amund
 
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