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Johnny Friday said:
Russ, does this mean you never see posts from users on your "ignore" list or does it just mean you cannot receive messages from them?
....And, how is the little lady now? what is she, 5 or 6 now? AND, where are you guys now? still Joburg? if so, what part?
Best to you guys...
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This is what you will see Johnny:

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You can directly access any unblocking if you like.

Cheers for the heads up Russ.

Mark.
 
Hi,

Sorry for posting out of sync with what is being discussed but a few weeks ago I looked for some advice here about shooting underwater. I was at the stage of testing where I couldn't get focus underwater. In any case the advice I got from several members here was invaluable to me. I said then that I would post the end video when it was done - here it is!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sO3ddogeZo.

This was shot in a 4ft pool so forgive some of the shots. Comments would be gratefully recieved.

Cathal
 
Ron, what model mack truck?

I guess i should have quantified that remark, but yes, as far as i know the only other rig shooting IMAX or Feature Films....which would notably be the Solido. I know 900 has been shot side by side, but not as main camera for IMAX....insert shots i believe.

....all joking aside: two guys can handle this rig from prepping, loading in the boat, launching from the boat, then one operator can run and free swim it to and from shooting location--operate single handed....Much unlike the current Solido rig which requires usually a team of 4 to 5....and a boat with a large hydraulic crane.....so in reality (i speak for myself) it's come a long way from what was the "norm". And surely things will change in next few days,weeks, years and we'll be shooting half this size. But a door is now open that was not open before.

....new thread? sounds good here.
 
Ron Lagerlof said:
Compared to what? A Mack Truck? An IMAX rig? ;-)...
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LOL, according to the manufacturer it weighs 265 lbs (120 kg)

compared to a Mack truck: 13,000 lbs (5,896 kg)
compared to Solido: 1300 lbs (589 kg)
compared to 3Deep: 53 lbs (24 kg)
compared to dual DeepX (with wet beam splitter): 50 lbs (22 kg)

so, when it comes to handling, I'd risk an educated guess that it should be somewhere between a Mack truck and the competition :)

One interesting thing that I noticed about the Deep Atom is that it is rated to 100 ft (30m). So, I guess, if it was rated to the same depths as most other housings are, it would be probably a bit closer to a Mack truck.

edit: more than happy for a new thread
 
Johnny Friday said:
...I know 900 has been shot side by side, but not as main camera for IMAX....insert shots i believe..
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LOL, yes, we do know, you don't know.

f-900 and f-950 were extensively used by Roller, Wight and Cameron in Cameron-Pace Fusion 3D housings (all of them were side by side using Fujinon lenses).

Have you seen Wild Ocean 3D IMAX? Sanctum 3D IMAX? Ghost of the Abyss? Aliens of the Deep? Any underwater 3D IMAX?

It is fascinating and entertaining to read your somewhat embarrassing stories. How do you come up with this nonsense, if you don't mind me asking, Johnny? :smilielol5:
 
yeah new thread call it "Underwater non bubble blowers" that would separate the men from the boys LOL
 
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Cathal Watters said:
Hi,

Sorry for posting out of sync with what is being discussed but a few weeks ago I looked for some advice here about shooting underwater. I was at the stage of testing where I couldn't get focus underwater. In any case the advice I got from several members here was invaluable to me. I said then that I would post the end video when it was done - here it is!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sO3ddogeZo.

This was shot in a 4ft pool so forgive some of the shots. Comments would be gratefully recieved.

Cathal
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This video is insanely good! WOW!!!!

Such a simple concept, executed brilliantly. I think this is one of the best videos I've seen in a WHILE.

Questions:
Was the pool black already? Or did you guys throw down a tarp?
How many lights are up top?
Did you guys do anything to add more bubble texture?

It doesn't FEEL like a pool. Instead, it feels like some lost lake, very primitive, timeless.

Great, great job!!!!
 
Nick Morrison said:
This video is insanely good! WOW!!!!

Such a simple concept, executed brilliantly. I think this is one of the best videos I've seen in a WHILE.

Questions:
Was the pool black already? Or did you guys throw down a tarp?
How many lights are up top?
Did you guys do anything to add more bubble texture?

It doesn't FEEL like a pool. Instead, it feels like some lost lake, very primitive, timeless.

Great, great job!!!!
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Hi NIck,

Many thanks for that! We shot a sequence of the band walking in ala Reservoir dogs and jumoing in but it wasn't used and the decision was made so as not to interrupt the feel of the 'world' below.

We blacked out the pool room and obviously had no light whatsoever. I had 3 x 1.2 k Hmis and 2 575 HMI pars.

For alot of the shots I only used one 2 lights (575 and 1.2k) and then for the dance sequence and for some of the closeups I used only one light but I also used a plexy glass -( perspex that is just like a mirror but bends) which I used to reflect onto faces/ dresses to give an otherworldly feel. I sometimes used a 575 to light foreground bubbles. It's was a very steep learing curve to understand what the light does when it hits water.

The pool was only 4ft all over so it was tough enough not to get spill onto tiles. The bubbles are just that - nothing added to the water. I asked the musicians to make as big a spalsh as possible when they went for a take and those bubbles stayed for a while. We figured out that the drummer had to take his hand out of the water so that we would get a trail of bubbles. For some of the wider shots I had a reg underneath the lens to give me some bubbles but the bubbles were too big.

All shot on EPIC 5 kws and with a Zeiss 25mm 1.3. I made 3 focal lengths and jused used them as we had no control once camera went in to casing - apart from the REDMOTE which worked brilliantly. Camera got very hot but we gave it lots of rest! I had to guess the stop for each setup and not change as it took a while to take out housing, dry, unlock etc. etc. We had led hanging lights at the back but they got lost.

Glad you liked it.

Cathal
 
and if you get in a pinch, you can always hide inside the housing. :)

Johnny Friday said:
Ron, what model mack truck?

I guess i should have quantified that remark, but yes, as far as i know the only other rig shooting IMAX or Feature Films....which would notably be the Solido. I know 900 has been shot side by side, but not as main camera for IMAX....insert shots i believe.

....all joking aside: two guys can handle this rig from prepping, loading in the boat, launching from the boat, then one operator can run and free swim it to and from shooting location--operate single handed....Much unlike the current Solido rig which requires usually a team of 4 to 5....and a boat with a large hydraulic crane.....so in reality (i speak for myself) it's come a long way from what was the "norm". And surely things will change in next few days,weeks, years and we'll be shooting half this size. But a door is now open that was not open before.

....new thread? sounds good here.
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Does anyone have a terms of employment document that might share here setting out for production companies who want to hire serves and gear the employment terms??
 
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