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Uncoated Samyang / Rokinon VDSLR Lenses

what would be nice to see is a non-flared shot, moving into a flare, so we can see the difference.
and what does the sun flare do!?
 
jordan levy said:
what would be nice to see is a non-flared shot, moving into a flare, so we can see the difference.
and what does the sun flare do!?
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We'll definitely shoot some sun flare tests - however, be prepared for a long wait, it's not looking like we'll see sunshine anytime soon here in London right now!
 
FYI: Voigtländer/Cosina is offering some of their lenses with single-coating, like the 35mm f1.4 Nokton Classic.
 
I agree with Jacek, this style of lens is simply a tool, a different type of paintbrush. I can also relate to his pain seeing such flaws introduced to a lens when we work so hard to perfect lenses and correct flaws to the best of our ability.

But it's a style choice just like anything else these days. It's no different than someone who chooses a ludicrously large SUV with 24" spinners instead of a civilized, reasonable sedan. It's no different than someone who chooses a pair of Kobe 8 shoes instead of something boring and functional. And no different than a person who chooses the bright red italian leather couch instead of the plain beige fabric couch. Introducing elements into a scene by way of modification has been a part of Hollywood since it's earliest days by using filters, nets, and even smearing grease on the lens.

In my opinion, it's entirely up to the cinematographer to convey his/her vision with the tools at their disposal and if that includes a set of Rokinon•Raw primes, more power to them.
 
Personally I am in favor of using Ansel Adams zone system whenever possible and shooting at f64. Everything else is blasphemy.
 
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Jacek Zakowicz

So this is the next fad?!!!
God save us. Abortion on lenses. As a lens tech it is really disheartening to see...
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I think I come down in favour of Jacek's argument. A lot of human time and effort goes into doing the precise work required to figure, polish and coat the lenses, even if much of the struggle and grunt may be robotised these days. To me, it is a disrespect of that work and human craft involved but that's just me.

I am of course a bit of a hypocrite in that I have uncoated some lenses with optical polish. It was in the quest for rescuing items which were otherwise write-offs and had been gifted. I came in lucky with a Cooke Ser2 50mm. With care, not all the coating thicknesses had be removed before the pits vanished. The 75mm did not fare so well as there was more wear and tear as well as the fungus.

However if I had known that these old lenses which were then junk-box-in-the-backroom items, would suddenly be in demand as all the 35mm sensor cameras bred up, I would have submitted the Cookes at least to a professional to deal with. On reflection, I have disrespected the handcraft which went into them by tackling them myself.

When it comes to respect for craftmanship, don't get me started on low-no budget camera assistants who shove the lens cloths into the pockets of their boardies likely with some spare grains of beach sand left in them. I managed to intervene before the individual touched my Nikon 85mm.

Their apparent higher value may be illusory. The fixed price items on ebay do not seem to be selling so well.
 
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