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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Umm Apple a little help please!

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How about this for a 4k display.

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If only apple supported portrait mode displays.
 
Apple does support portrait mode displays and/or display rotation. One catch though -- does not work with most of their nVidia card offerings. It does however work with most of the ATI offerings. For some reason, nVidia has disabled display rotation in their newer driver sets on Apple systems and I don't know why.

Theoretically, you could do this 3 * 30" display setup using an ATI X1900XT as the primary display card and an X1900GT Mac Edition as a secondary video card to drive the third monitor. ...Within the current Mac Pro that is. On an older G5, you can drive multiple monitors using the various nVidia and ATI options, but there is no option for 3 * DVI-DL that also supports portrait mode / rotation. With upcoming Mac Pro models -- assuming they ship an SLI/Crossfire style multi-video-card configuration, then driving this 3 monitor (or even 4 monitor) arrangement should be pretty easy.

For practical use, this would be a very cumbersome arrangement though. Having two dividers about 1" each (assuming the bezel dimensions of Apple or Dell 30" screens) chopping up the middle of your workspace would get real annoying. And 1600 pixels is a bit narrow to cram a lot of stuff onto a single display at a time. Especially now that many of us have got used to the 1920 or 2560 screen widths.

...Anyway, just my thoughts. I'm hoping we see full a 4K panel on the market at about 46" or less by the end of the year.
 
Sorry, should have said this was a little tongue in cheek. ;)

I hope they have better monitor solutions by the end of the year too.

By the way 3 30" Apple monitors would take up about 65" side to side. That is as tall as me.
 
ChrisForbes said:
Sorry, should have said this was a little tongue in cheek. ;)
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I figured it was, but I felt like responding anyway.

By the way 3 30" Apple monitors would take up about 65" side to side. That is as tall as me.
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I've got 2 Dell 30" displays on my desk. It's big and wonderful. :) 3 would definitely be too much.
 
tounge in cheek maybe but I like it !
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AppliedVisual said:
I've got 2 Dell 30" displays on my desk. It's big and wonderful. :) 3 would definitely be too much.
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I use a single 30" ACD. I frequently lose the mouse pointer. How do you keep track of it with two 30's? :nerd:
 
RndmAxess said:
I use a single 30" ACD. I frequently lose the mouse pointer. How do you keep track of it with two 30's? :nerd:
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Good eyes, I guess.

I sit with my eyes about 38~40" away from my primary 30" display, the secondary display is immediately on the left of that, turned on a bit of an angle.

I sit in front of this thing for hours on end using Modo, Lightwave, FCP, Shake, Photoshop and staring at tons of C++ and Objective-C code. On the rare occasion that I visually lose the mouse cursor (which I leave at standard size, none of that enlarged pointer BS), a quick flick of the mouse will reveal its position. Usually the only time I kinda lose track of it is in Photoshop with some of the brush tips and tools cursors changing form.

I primarily went with the dual 30" setup because I can run a full model window in Modo on one display and place secondary windows and all my tool panels on the other display. Lightwave allows me to have Modeler on one screen, Layout/render on the other. Photoshop lets me work full screen on an image on one screen with all the crap on the other... FCP gives me full res HD preview and edit windows with timeline and tools on the other display, etc...

I'd gladly trade both of these displays for a single 4.5K monitor at 40"-46" in size though. :)
 
Might work, I'd love to see how they blend the edges.
 
The above pixel-blaster wall panel systems are using multiple projectors - similar to mersive. Multiple projected sources piece together to make a single giant screen, rear projection style too...
 
That is the Sony 4K projector being displayed there. It already does 4K ;-)
 
Gang of 4

Gang of 4

Sony's 4k SXRD based projector is the bomb but it is big and expensive - also overkill for a grading suite where you wouldn't need a 30' wide image. I am intrigued by the idea of using 4 1080p projectors driven by a Mac and the Mersive interface. There are some pretty impressive projectors hitting the market these days for prices between $3K and $7K.
 
I think the T221 has a bit too much lag for motion, it is more suited to still image work.

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Martin said:
I think the T221 has a bit too much lag for motion, it is more suited to still image work.
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It does have serious motion issues. Probably one of the reasons it's no longer in production. Hopefully we'll see more high-res panels soon. I'd love to see LCD panels get about a 50% boost in density. Then we could have a 32" 4K display. Samsung and others have shown 4K panels at 46" sizes and larger, but these are just big panels with no more pixel density than what's available now in current displays.
 
I think that mondale one is using the same Hitachi 22" panel used by the IBM/ViewSonic T221/VX221. ...Just a hunch. ;)

From what I've seen of the IBM/ViewSonic model the panel is OK. Not very bright an poor color and contrast compared to current offerings like the Apple and Dell 30" models. They weren't very good for motion graphics or video, I don't recall what the pixel refresh/response time was, but it was probably around 22ms. Anything over about 14ms is terrible for video or motion work. There were other motion issues with the IBM/ViewSonic displays but I think it was due to the internal processing and handling of the 2 * dual-link DVI signals. I would imagine that a more current design could make a lot better use of that high res panel.
 
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