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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Tutorials for Newcomers to Premiere Pro

i Just got my first RED cam, Scarlet x, and ive shot with RED one, but never been involved in post. Being its my companys first RED, this was super super helpful. Thanks so much. looking forward to the advanced. Really wanna know how to go from timeline to color and final 1080 export. knowing that would make my heart content. Thanks again.
 
i use apple color. only because ive been running fcp 7 suite. Im open to using other programs like cs5.5 or something else. Its nice that you can pre grade in red cine-x. I love that.
 
Ok cool. You will probably find Color a bit limiting because it's not going to let you grade with the Epic or Scarlet R3D's so you will lose that raw workflow. If 1080p is the max resolution you will need to use, I would really encourage you to download the lite version of DaVinci Resolve. It will let you work in raw and is a much more capable grader than Color. It's almost too powerful for being a free program.

It would definitely be worth your while learning though :). I'm not on Mac so until they get their Windows version out, I'm not going to be much help on the actual specifics of the program - but there are heaps of users on DaVinci and it looks like it could have a long life ahead of it so definitely check it out .

You can check out their website here:
http://blackmagic-design.com/products/davinciresolve
 
this is what ive been reading on the forums. Ill definitely check it out. Thanks for the tips. What do you color in on pc?
 
Ha! I don't - well sort of...

I have tried my hand at both Color Finesse and Colorista II. They are good for what they are but they are clunky and are only just enough to get me by for the moment. I'm hanging out for either Speedgrade in CS6 or DaVinci on Windows - or both. In addition to that, I'm also getting up to speed on Nucoda at a facility close by to me : )
 
Brad

First off - cool first video. I haven't been back to Adobe Premier pro since version 3 (back then I hated it!), but your tutorial is really good. Thanks for doing that.

All the above ideas sound great for building a library up and I think having it RED centric is great.

Can I add one to the list - might be a bit of a short one, but could we have a Premier Pro to After Effects then back to Premier Pro roundtrip. Be nice to show how files travel, integrate and travel back to / from Premier pro to the other application in the production suite.

Keep up the good work my friend.

Steve
:))
 
Thanks for the kind words Steve! Glad you liked the tutorial - I wasn't sure how clear the first one was but as long you got something out of it then all is well :)

Integration between After Effects and Premiere Pro sounds great. I'll add it to the list!
 
Fantastic Brad. Very generous, highly informative, well presented and incredibly useful. Especially for me. And I'm only half way in :)

You had already advised me very helpfully on my workflow a couple of months ago. Not sure if you would recall.
I would also second Steve's request above thanks. And also wondering if is there anything I ned to know about using Colourista II inside AE in that workflow? (you had already advised me it was a bit of a Ram hog I seem to recall)

I'm based in NSW on the central coast - in beautiful Copacabana beach. Where are you based? Seem to think it was Brissy I thought I'd read somewhere?
Anyway, love to buy you a beer/coffee and lunch and talk Scarlet and film etc with you if your of a mind sometime.

Regardless thanks again for your awesome contribution mate.

Best Wishes

Lliam
 
Thanks for the great tutorial!!

I've been using FCP7 with an Intensity card to capture tethered by 30' HDMI cable 'live', bypassing the mpeg conversion, etc. of my inexpensive video camera. I've been waiting for the Scarlet release to purchase a 'real' camera.

I purchased Production Premium 5.5 for Win7 when FCP X was released, my way of voting with my wallet.

I'd like to know if I can shoot Scarlet tethered like that, out of the hdmi. The hdmi goes from the camera to an HDMI switch which puts one output to a 22" monitor and sends the other upstairs to the Mac Pro..

It makes it very easy to shoot, get the levels perfect and immediately review the footage.

I was thinking that if I could also shoot 4K with Scarlet at the same time to flash, this would have some advantages, but I'm curious if any come to mind?

1. If I'm at 4K in the Scarlet, what comes out of the HDMI? Is it re-sampled 1080p from the 4K? Does sound also come out?

2. I've never used Premiere at all yet. Can I shoot tethered using Premiere 5.5 with the Scarlet? I've got a Matrox mx02 mini in addition to the Intensity card

3. One last question. How much time does it take to create final output, which for me has generally been h.264 sized for the web - and also one of the BluRay codecs.

I have a 2GB GTX 285 on my Win7 now, but am looking into upgrading the card.

Thanks!!!!
 
Lliam Worthington said:
Fantastic Brad. Very generous, highly informative, well presented and incredibly useful. Especially for me. And I'm only half way in :)

You had already advised me very helpfully on my workflow a couple of months ago. Not sure if you would recall.
I would also second Steve's request above thanks. And also wondering if is there anything I ned to know about using Colourista II inside AE in that workflow? (you had already advised me it was a bit of a Ram hog I seem to recall)

I'm based in NSW on the central coast - in beautiful Copacabana beach. Where are you based? Seem to think it was Brissy I thought I'd read somewhere?
Anyway, love to buy you a beer/coffee and lunch and talk Scarlet and film etc with you if your of a mind sometime.

Regardless thanks again for your awesome contribution mate.

Best Wishes

Lliam
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Hi Lliam!

Very pleased to hear you got something out of it :)

Regarding your workflow with Colorista II in AE and Premiere, I'm hoping that whatever I put together for the integration between these two should help you out. There shouldn't be anything too tricky or out of the ordinary. Let me know if you have specific queries though ;)

I'm actually based in NSW too - Maitland/Newcastle area. Maybe you were thinking of Mark Toia in Brissy? Ha - either way I would love to meet up with you and have a chat. I'll shoot you a PM :)

Cheers
 
Les C. said:
1. If I'm at 4K in the Scarlet, what comes out of the HDMI? Is it re-sampled 1080p from the 4K? Does sound also come out?

2. I've never used Premiere at all yet. Can I shoot tethered using Premiere 5.5 with the Scarlet? I've got a Matrox mx02 mini in addition to the Intensity card

3. One last question. How much time does it take to create final output, which for me has generally been h.264 sized for the web - and also one of the BluRay codecs.

I have a 2GB GTX 285 on my Win7 now, but am looking into upgrading the card.

Thanks!!!!
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Hi Les, I'm actually not going to be all that much help with your queries here as I'm not familiar with that sort of a workflow.

1. If Scarlet works in the same way as the EPIC (it should), then you should get a 1080p output from HDMI. Not sure if it has sound or not sorry.

2. I have no idea if you can shoot tethered or not - I'm kind of doubting it. In the old days when capturing via firewire, I used to be able to just point the camera at something and hit capture - but that was a long time ago.

3. The time that a final export takes will be variable and depends on a lot of different things such as: the specs of the machine you are working on, the resolution you are working with, the format of footage you are using, what effects (if any) are applied, whether you have any h.264 acceleration cards installed, the length of the footage, whether it is being downscaled and which quality setting you have selected for export. There is no easy answer unfortunately!
 
Awesome job, I worked through the 2nd video ... makes r3d cake. I especially like your explanation of the "source settings" window ... i hadn't used that much. Now finding simple color presets that quickly (like seconds) allow me to view/scan dailies(allows me to skip a couple of steps in my flow). Copying that file to all the weird subdirectories so you don't get the import errors ... took me a few minutes. Still not sure why i had to copy to three spots (i guess the media encoder and after effects all need separate copies). Anyway, thanks !
 
PatrickFaith said:
Awesome job, I worked through the 2nd video ... makes r3d cake. I especially like your explanation of the "source settings" window ... i hadn't used that much. Now finding simple color presets that quickly (like seconds) allow me to view/scan dailies(allows me to skip a couple of steps in my flow). Copying that file to all the weird subdirectories so you don't get the import errors ... took me a few minutes. Still not sure why i had to copy to three spots (i guess the media encoder and after effects all need separate copies). Anyway, thanks !
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Hey Patrick! Which file are you referring to? The .rmd?
 
Brad Allen said:
Hi Lliam!

Very pleased to hear you got something out of it :)

Regarding your workflow with Colorista II in AE and Premiere, I'm hoping that whatever I put together for the integration between these two should help you out. There shouldn't be anything too tricky or out of the ordinary. Let me know if you have specific queries though ;)

I'm actually based in NSW too - Maitland/Newcastle area. Maybe you were thinking of Mark Toia in Brissy? Ha - either way I would love to meet up with you and have a chat. I'll shoot you a PM :)

Cheers
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Cheers for all that Brad, that's great. Ha, yeah I was probably getting my Aussies confused.
Look forward to catching up as per our PM's.

Best Wishes

Lliam
 
one question, when I make color correction in redcine x on some footage, how can I import that footage (with different color correction then original) to premiere, when I try to import that r3d file I got same color correction as original, even when I make r3d trim with different cc, again in premiere is original
 
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