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THE MUPPETS MEET 4K

Michael Cioni

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I'm excited to announce that the latest theatrical release of a RED feature film hits theaters tomorrow night in North America called "The Muppets." This film does a lot for the file-based community and I'm pleased to share the highlights of my experience on my Tumblr blog.
Hoping everyone has a happy Thanksgiving and if you are interested in spending time with family outside of dinner, I recommend checking out "The Muppets" in theaters for an amazing film and a great RED experience.
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EXERPT FROM MICHAEL CIONI's BLOG. Read the entire blog @ http://michaelcioni.tumblr.com/

While there are projects out there in 2010 that did similar workflows, I’m fairly confident in saying that Muppets was the first movie of this magnitude and for a major studio that literally did not have a post house on the show at all until the DI. Archiving, LTO, dailies color, syncing, web deliverables, visual effects pulls and temp conforms were all done by the OUTPOST operator, Disney’s on-site DEPOT backup and the Muppet editorial team. Muppets followed our recommended workflow exactly, creating what was a completely self-sufficient machine that was independent of outside, 3rd party post production support. On the scale that Muppets was with the talent and politics involved, this was a huge task and couldn’t have been done without the blessing of Don and director James Bobin, Jeff and Leon, the talented and forward-thinking DIT Carissa Ridgeway and one of the sharpest and most up-to-date post supervisors out there, Jill Breitzman.

A good workflow on paper should always be simple. I’m shocked when I see workflows that look more like the electrical plans of an office building than a flowchart. If a workflow cannot pass the Occam’s Razor test, it means its overt complexity on paper is likely to manifest itself in practice, thus hard to execute in reality. The Muppets workflow was simple, streamlined and proximal. Cory was on set, and worked in between the production party (led by the DP and DIT) and the post production party (led by the post supervisor and assistant editor). Putting the heavy-horsepower of OUTPOST with Cory on set allowed him to satisfy the needs of both entities while simultaneously eliminating unnecessary 3rd party involvement such as post laboratory…including Light Iron! And that’s the way I like it.

Muppets. There was a small joke floating around the set based on an inaccurate rumor that people claim; “RED can’t get good skin tones.” While I personally have never had trouble with RED skin tones, the joke we made on Muppets was the very real concern over Muppet skin tones! -It sounds strange, but it’s actually very important. A major actor might have a slightly different look in tone from movie to movie. This can be based on the the time of year, type of lighting or filtration or the color correction at the end. But so long as the look is “natural” or “appropriate,” no one would probably notice. But unlike people, the Muppets have a very distinct set of colors. Kermit green is bright, but not electric. Fozzie orange is semi-saturated, but not too brown. Gonzo is blue with purple, not purple with blue. It is critical that the RED captures the colors of these characters that look, essentially, “perfect” based on 35 years of memory. Until now, most memories you have of the Muppets were photographed on film and almost none of them went through any precise digital color correction whatsoever. But it was clear after a couple days that Muppet skin tones were looking perfect and people were immediately talking about the content, not the technology (which is more important).

But as soon as people started looking closer at the iPads and the projected dailies, everyone realized that there was a new dimension of Muppets we have not seen before: texture.

You know what Kermit looks like, but when you see the Muppets, you will know what he feels like. You know what Rolf looks like, but when you see the Muppets, you will know what he feels like. This additional level of dimensionality brings these characters to life in an entirely new way. I didn’t see it coming, but it was clear to me that what Don was lighting and what the RED MX was capturing was a combination that the Muppets have never experienced before. This merging of elments: Don & Book of Eli, Disney & Pirates, RED MX & Epic, RedLogFilm and REDGamma, the list goes on and on, but it was a fantastic intersection of talent and trust that enabled this film to look the way that audiences will experience upon it’s release tomorrow night.
 
Very cool, Michael. Congrats -- the film is getting very good reviews.

I certainly agree with this: "I’m shocked when I see workflows that look more like the electrical plans of an office building than a flowchart." I've had a few stubborn clients who essentially said, "this is the way we've always done it, and we're not gonna change." All we could so was mutter, "OK, it'll take more time, so we can bill more. Oh, well."
 
I'm So Excited about this film!
I love the MUPPETS and RED.
It may seem weird to people that I brag a lot that this film was shot on a RED. People are like "HUH?" so what.
DUDE! Its the MUPPETS! On RED!
In a lot of ways this means more to me than "The Great Gatsby", Seriously!
 
Great job, Michael. I'm very proud you and your company's accomplishments and art.

Also, a very well written article. Your writing skills are right on par with your speaking abilities which means a lot...
 
Cool, Congratulation
 
But one more feather in the Light Iron cap. Thanks for sharing and illuminating. Great insights.
 
Thanks to all.
What I'd like to know is after people do see the film is to share their feelings here. Getting feedback on our work and others can only help the entire community to learn and capitalize on the big picture: 4K RAW image capture and the MX sensor. Please share your visual experience and ask questions so the same principles we employed on The Muppets can be utilized by everyone. If one falls, we all fall. When one succeeds, we all succeed.
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Watched the Muppets today. Looked amazing. Skin/Fur tones were spot-on IMO.
 
I just saw Jack & Jill and then jumped into the theater to catch 10 min to see the quality of The Muppets. I'm taking my kids to see that in the next few days. Jack & Jill (Alexa) was okay looking. The Muppets was much nicer and their was something very sharp about it and get this, the Muppet movie was on a larger screen so should have broken down more with the projection. I don't think a normal consumer would notice much difference or care much with the difference as they are both great tools, but since I know and was looking, Epic footage looks great. Skin tones looked amazing and natural, very organic actually too, unlike Contagion (just my opinion).

I have never been more excited to get my Scarlet X
 
Sweet!
Congrats Michael... I really appreciate your work.
Very inspiring to me.
Keep rocking hard.
Cheers from Brazil my friend.


Ps.:Look forward to know in person Light Iron, couldn't be there in the open house.
 
Just saw the Muppets projected in 4k yesterday night. Looked awesome. First time seeing a 4k projection, and first time seeing Red Footage in theaters.
 
Just saw the Muppets projected in 4k yesterday night. Looked awesome. First time seeing a 4k projection, and first time seeing Red Footage in theaters.

I'm not sure, but I would doubt that the picture went out as a 4K DCP. Michael, do you know otherwise?
 
I'm not sure, but I would doubt that the picture went out as a 4K DCP. Michael, do you know otherwise?

That's one question I meant to ask. Was it down-scaled to 2k for distribution? Either way, the theater has Sony 4k projectors. I know because they actually run a logo prior to the start of a film that says "Sony Digital Cinema 4k". Actually every screen that theater owns has a 4k projector. They also 35mm projectors in a few screens, just in case. (Frank Theaters - http://franktheaters.com) So even if the master was 2k, it should have been blown up to 4k, by the projector, no?

So at best it was 4.5k/5k source to a 4k DCP on a 4k projector. At worst it was a 4.5k/5k source, down-scaled to a 2k DCP on a 4k projector.
 
Looking forwards to seeing this one!

Graeme
 
I want my 4K

I want my 4K

The first issue is whether or not a 4K master (DPX, Cineform, Open EXR!) was created.

Second, was a 4K DCP made and distributed?

Third, does the theater you are sitting in have a 4K projector with a 4K server? It is my understanding that some of the 4K projectors out there are hooked up to DCI compliant servers that are only 2K capable.

I am planning to take my 6 year old son to see the Muppets in the next few days. I would love to see it in 4K (assuming a 4K master exists) but how exactly would I be able to find out which theaters in the area are offering a true 4K exhibition of the Muppets? I am a motivated, educated consumer with decent web searching skills and based on my attempts to find 4K showings of other titles in the last couple of years I highly doubt I can obtain such information.

Is it just me or does it seem odd that a local exhibitor would throw down big coin to put in a 4K projector and then keep it a secret? Because that's how it's being played so far. Is it just that they want to beat the 3D drum a bit longer and don't want to dilute that with 4K messaging?

Other than driving around town and asking to see the manager at every decent sized theater (who may then refer me to a systems integrator or technical resource at the chain level), which is time prohibitive, its virtually impossible. How do we change that?

Cheers - #19
 
I'm not sure, but I would doubt that the picture went out as a 4K DCP. Michael, do you know otherwise?

The Muppets DCP was ultimately mastered in 2K. But more than ten thousand theaters are screening it off of 4K projectors. Most DCP players today will take 4K DCPs and scale them down to 2K (when applicable) and also take 2K DCPs and scale them up to 4K projection (when applicable). Muppets will look great on both projectors, even though it was mastered in 2K. I have been working in 4K a lot lately and screening 4K on a daily basis for about 5 months. Ample experience in 4K monitoring has taught me a lot and I've formed some new theories about 4K scaling of 2K sources and visa versa. I'll publish a report early next year.

4K mastering is starting to happen on a large scale, especially in 2012. Prior to 2012, only a few special films per year went through the added expense and befits of 4K mastering and 4K distribution. But that's all about to change. On December 21st, roughly 3 weeks from now, our second 4K finish will hit theaters as both 4K DCPs and 4K recorded film prints. "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" will be distributed in 4K and take advantage of the most recent 4K installations, which means millions of people will actually get to see it in full 4K.
More on that later as well...
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I'm in Huntsville, Alabama for Thanksgiving with the in-laws, and we just took all the kids to see the Muppets at the local Rave theatre. First, I thought it was interesting that at the head of the previews was a large ad for Christie Projectors... obviously a deal between Rave and Christie to highlight the projectors and the digital display.

I had actually forgotten that LightIron did the DI until I saw the credits, so my opinions were clear of any "friend bias."

I'm 41 years old and grew up with the Muppets as a big part of my childhood, so the subject is near and dear to me. : )

The first thing that hit me is that I thought I could see the seams in Fozzie Bear's outfit, and I saw dust on Kermit's shoulder in one of the early scenes. The textures were really amazing - almost to the point that it took me out of the story because they were so clearly puppets. Extremely well done, Michael and team... I was impressed.

Lucas


Lucas Wilson
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VP, Sales & Marketing
CAMERON | PACE Group
LA, CA, USA
 
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