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The Hobbit at 48fps...

M Most said:
No, not really. If we actually had 3D, it might be interesting. We don't. We have stereoscopy, which is hardly the same thing.

I really wish people would stop trying to explain to others why they should like either 48fps or stereoscopy. Sensory experience is a personal thing, and one's reaction to it is equally as personal. None of the explanations are worth anything. People have the right to decide for themselves whether they like it or not, and should not be influenced by either technical or physiological arguments, nor should they be influenced by the opinions of others, including Peter Jackson, Jim Cameron, and, yes, Jim Jannard. One either likes it or they don't. By early evidence, an awfully large percentage seem to be in the "don't" category.

I have seen it (not the Hobbit picture, but numerous examples of both HFR, stereoscopy, and a combination of the two). I also fall in the "don't" category. But my opinion is basically meaningless to anyone else. And it should be.
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Well, the thread could have endet after this great post from Mr. Most :)

Problem is: the movie industrie wants a new recipe for their expensive movies so that the average video-streamjunkie misses out on something when he visits kinox.to. On the other hand, these guys also stand shitty datarates, resolution, dynamic range and color space in their movie watching... so it might not work.
 
does anybody knows the difference between IMAX 3D HFR and Regular 3D HFR ?

assuming that the movie has been finished @ 2K , and assuming that many imax screens are "fake (size wise) " IMAX (they just use the IMAX projector ... why do you think IMAX HFR would be better than 3D HFR ? (if so ) ...

I remember seeing the trailer of the Hobbit in IMAX 3D before prometheus and looks Horrible , than i have seen it again few days ago before life pf PI 3D ( on regular RealD ) and looked fantastic ... is Imax 3D digital ? i almost have the feeling that is printed on IMAX size film ...

also i just bought the Oakley 3D glasses , apparently works with RealD , does anybody knows if IMAX 3D is different (glass wise ) from RealD ?

sorry for the ignorance

thanks

g
 
My local IMAX couldn't do HFR and I was blown away, IMAX should always be a step ahead in cinema experience and IMHO I'm not going to waste a ticket for IMAX if it doesn't present the film in the most true and immersive way possible.
 
48fps isn't the future. People at the WB screenings on the lot were walking out of the 48fps screening even before it started. Then some people followed soon after. Granted those are only about 5-10 people out of a 200+ theater. But it says something pretty significant about 48fps and how people view it. I've been seeing the test for well over a year now and I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. Sure it allows for faster pans but that's the only plus out of the whole 48fps process. HFR takes the viewer out of the movie experience. The picture does look super clear on static shots but when actors move it looks like bad smeary video. Based on the reviews that 48fps has been getting elsewhere it doesn't seem like its going to be around for very long. Some of the press that have been showing up for the 48fps screenings complain that we are playing the film back at the wrong speed as it looks faster than its suppose to, which is does.

Still The Hobbit by its self in 2D and 3D 24fps looks amazing and I really liked the film.
 
Andrew Walker said:
48fps isn't the future. People at the WB screenings on the lot were walking out of the 48fps screening even before it started. Then some people followed soon after. Granted those are only about 5-10 people out of a 200+ theater. But it says something pretty significant about 48fps and how people view it. I've been seeing the test for well over a year now and I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. Sure it allows for faster pans but that's the only plus out of the whole 48fps process. HFR takes the viewer out of the movie experience. The picture does look super clear on static shots but when actors move it looks like bad smeary video. Based on the reviews that 48fps has been getting elsewhere it doesn't seem like its going to be around for very long. Some of the press that have been showing up for the 48fps screenings complain that we are playing the film back at the wrong speed as it looks faster than its suppose to, which is does.

Still The Hobbit by its self in 2D and 3D 24fps looks amazing and I really liked the film.
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LIKED!!!? You've seen it already?
 
Walking out... Bah! I am gonna see it the whole way through before I pass judgment. I am forcing a lot of my movie going buddies to watch in HFR, so I can get a layman's opinion about the whole thing.
 
I'm in toronto canada and the have 3D HFR in most theathers that are up to date can't wait.... :emote_popcorn:
 
In Prague we have 2 theaters with 3D HFR waiting for Hobbit. Unfortunately not with Atmos sound.
We have lot of Hobbit fans pushing theaters to 3D HFR on Facebook :)

:lurk5:
 
Gabriele Turchi said:
does anybody knows the difference between IMAX 3D HFR and Regular 3D HFR ?

assuming that the movie has been finished @ 2K , and assuming that many imax screens are "fake (size wise) " IMAX (they just use the IMAX projector ... why do you think IMAX HFR would be better than 3D HFR ? (if so ) ...

I remember seeing the trailer of the Hobbit in IMAX 3D before prometheus and looks Horrible , than i have seen it again few days ago before life pf PI 3D ( on regular RealD ) and looked fantastic ... is Imax 3D digital ? i almost have the feeling that is printed on IMAX size film ...

also i just bought the Oakley 3D glasses , apparently works with RealD , does anybody knows if IMAX 3D is different (glass wise ) from RealD ?

sorry for the ignorance

thanks

g
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Slightly larger screen is the only difference. Best to just see it in HFR3D and skip the IMAX unless you absolutely feel it's necessary. The Oakley glasses are just passive 3D glasses that are optimized for visual clarity, so they will work fine with the IMAX HFR3D showings.
 
Brian Self said:
LIKED!!!? You've seen it already?
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I've been seeing parts of it for the past year. The screenings of the Hobbit have been going full tilt at the studio for the last couple weeks. So I've seen it in 2D, 3D and 48fps 3D. Some people are complaining that the 48fps plus the 3D is making them sick. That's the reason for some of the walk outs.
 
I'm leaning heavily towards seeing it in regular 3D first and then HFR3D. The only problem with that is that pretty much every theater in my area is just HFR3D for the 3D showings with all other showings being 2D. :banghead:
 
L. Langer said:
I'm leaning heavily towards seeing it in regular 3D first and then HFR3D. The only problem with that is that pretty much every theater in my area is just HFR3D for the 3D showings with all other showings being 2D. :banghead:
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I have contemplated watching it in 2d or regular 3d IMAX first as well. My reasoning for seeing it in HFR first is that I want my preconceptions challenged. I will watch it again in IMAX 3d at regular fps as well as 2d and gauge for myself. I suspect my friends will do the same since I am forcing them to watch HFR first.
 
Kudos to anyone able to sit through 3*3hours of the Hobbit.
Guess it was a clever way to sell a lot of extra tickets ;-)
 
I'm utterly thrilled to be going to have a look at something I have never seen before in 3D 48Fps - and the fact it's the Hobbit my all time favourite childhood book... There isn't a word to describe how much I'm looking forward to it. Whole family (7 of us) are driving two hours to get to a HFR cinema out here in Oz on Boxing day. (We get a later release sigh.) Then I have the happy excuse of watching the film a few more times to compare it in other release formats. I'm willing to leave all my preconceptions at the door. Some seem to have decided it's not for them without even having seen a frame. Strange world. To discover a new world, you can't be afraid to lose sight of the shore...
 
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Joachim Hoge said:
Kudos to anyone able to sit through 3*3hours of the Hobbit.
Guess it was a clever way to sell a lot of extra tickets ;-)
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Disagree. Fantasy films for may years have suffered for exactly the reason that they require a greater level of immersion and detail to bring the reader/viewer into the world. Hobbit is 320 pages. That can easily translate into 3 screenplays. Especially with a team as creative and well resourced as the one that is making the Hobbit. I think those who are second guessing it as just a commercial decision are going to be proved way off base. We are talking about one of the greatest directors alive, with one of the most beloved stories. Mind open I say.
 
Frankly, I can't wait for the extended cuts - the first of which comes out next year - and I wish WB would show them in theatres.
 
I cannot believe that St. Louis MO.. the LAST place to adopt anything new, has TWO screens showing the Hobbit at 48fps...

I'm standing here beside myself!! (movie reference)

Jay
 
Lliam Worthington said:
Disagree. Fantasy films for may years have suffered for exactly the reason that they require a greater level of immersion and detail to bring the reader/viewer into the world. Hobbit is 320 pages. That can easily translate into 3 screenplays. Especially with a team as creative and well resourced as the one that is making the Hobbit. I think those who are second guessing it as just a commercial decision are going to be proved way off base. We are talking about one of the greatest directors alive, with one of the most beloved stories. Mind open I say.
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He he. I will watch the 3D HFR as I´m very curious about the look (I think and hope it will look good).
I didn´t mean the 3 different films, I meant watching the same Hobbit films 3 times in different formats. But seeing your enthusiasm, it dosen´t seem like you will have a problem with that. In a way I´m envious, I would love to look foreward to it as much as you do. (I read the book when young and I didn´t like it much.)
Enjoy the family outing
 
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