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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

the HD Fury and Red One

What Jeff said. It is very much HDMI, just not necessarily what the consumer standard sets want to see. I have it working via HDMI in full 1080 (playback only, live is 720), complete with audio just fine.

DVI even more consistent, just lose the audio and 1080.
 
There are cables with HDMI on one end and DVI on the other. They all work both ways. The difference between HDMI and DVI is HDCP copy protection, which is mandatory for HDMI, but optional for DVI. If the source doesn't impose HDCP (and the RED doesn't), that's irrelevant.
If the RED is set to output straight 720 or 1080, every monitor should accept it. If it's set to show the surrounding area and controls, only computer monitors will sync.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
HDMI is based on a the DVI spec. The video signal format is the same. That's why you can use a simple cable or adapter to switch between HDMI and DVI. Think of HDMI as simply a compact DVI-D connector that also carries multichannel digital audio and adheres to a specific subset of signal timings to keep it compatible with most HDTV hardware.

The RED's HDMI port and the signal that comes out of it is not really out of spec, it's just that many HDTVs don't like the uncommon dimensions of the image.

The DVI to VGA adapter you have linked at the Apple store will not work here. That is for connecting to the DVI-I port of a Mac or most any PC that has DVI-I functionality. The -I denotes integrated analog and digital signal hardware and means that VGA or RGBHV signals can be sent out of the DVI port and into a VGA / RGBHV monitor with one of these adapter cables. And Apple is charging way too much... That's really a $4 cable adapter.

If you want to convert DVI-D (-D is digital output only) to VGA, you will need an expensive converter box like AJA, Key Digital, Matrox, Gefen, etc.. And most of them will be just as finicky, if not more so, than HDMI or DVI monitors you connect directly to the RED with the proper cable.
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its not possible to connect red HDMI - VGA monitor? with this cable?
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rulevu said:
its not possible to connect red HDMI - VGA monitor? with this cable?
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And just what cable is that? Unless it has internal circuitry (and I don't see any such evidence of a converter there), then it will not work. Oddball cables like that usually have specific purposes, like connecting an HDMI feed to a signal processor of sorts, not for direct connection to a VGA monitor. The signals are completely different.

To connect the RED HDMI output to a VGA/RGB display, you need to actually convert the HDMI (DVI-D[igital]) signal to analog RGB. You need a converter such as the HD Fury mentioned in this thread.

However, I don't know if the HD Fury specifically works. I doubt that it does work with the extended format monitoring mode of the RED One. Looking in the forums, people are having lots of issues with signal timings that are just slightly off normal from typical HD output devices. I bought an HD Fury when it was first released, but returned it after I was unable to use it to drive a 36" RCA EDTV nor a Sony 24" widescreen monitor.
 
Mo Kamal said:
Yes I realized after I posted that it was DVI-I not DVI-D, still wouldn't something like this (HDMI female to DVI-I female adapter) + that apple adapter + VGA screen work, or do you know of a reason why a box would still be needed?
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I know this is an old post, but this still will not work.

DVI-I is a connector type. The "I" stands for "integrated standard" which means this is the type of DVI connector that can transport both analog and digital formats. The HDMI output on the RED is DIGITAL ONLY. So you can still use an adapter like this, or any HDMI to DVI cable, to change the connector to DVI. But you will still need some sort of external converter to change the signal from digital HDMI/DVI to a different format.

The Apple DVI to VGA adapter requires the Apple system to output the analog RGB signal over the DVI port. Essentially the system is sending the VGA signal over the DVI connector and then you use Apple's adapter to put that signal onto a proper VGA connector.

The RED One camera does not do this. It only outputs a digital HDMI/DVI compliant signal. If you want any other format (VGA, RGBHV, YUV, etc..) you must have a conversion system of some kind.
 
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