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the HD Fury and Red One

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Many people have been suggesting HD Fury http://www.hdfury.com/

as a way to connect a Red One to any old computer monitor. Same way it is used for ps3s.

I can't help thinking that if it worked then it would've been in more threads around here, but I have to ask..

Any actual experience with the Hd Fury and Red????
 
I've never used it for that purpose, but the picture from the fury is great. We use it for PS3 on an old tube projector. When our RED is back from shooting I'll try.

But I doubt it'll work with the format with surrounding information, only strict 720 or 1080.
 
http://www.curtpalme.com/HDFury2.shtm

http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=32&sid=63b04ce2c5c2d51257492ab28a361e68

I've not had personal experience with the Fury (for Fury2), but I do have experience with the IFB-FULLHD, which is also sold from CurtPalme.com. Speaking for the IFB-FULLHD, (which does the same thing, but in an IFB form factor for the old Sony CRT projectors) specifically for the RED, it has worked well at 720p. I've tried 1080p, but my projector is very particular about 1080p, and generally doesn't like it.

After a few months of perfect operation, the HDCP processor failed preventing me from watching movies on it, but I can still use the camera on it just fine.

Check out the second link about, which goes to their forums where people are discussing these products. You can probably find useful information there.
 
nomad said:
When our RED is back from shooting I'll try.
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Please do




nomad said:
But I doubt it'll work with the format with surrounding information, only strict 720 or 1080.
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Idon't understand what you mean, I thought that it was just a matter of finding a crt or lcd that matches with reds resolution and framerate of hdmi out.
 
Kyle, I need to know if there has been any success with red and hdfury specifically, great info on the IFB-FULLHD but that doesn't help me much.

I searched around and found a lot of good feedback on hdfury but nothing on it's use with a Red One.
 
For the cost of that thing you could buy a 19" HDTV with HDMI in... And an HDMI cable. Thats why NO ONE has even tried
 
Alex Carr said:
Is there a specific reason you need to use a old crt?
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Because I own 5 monitors already including a 20 inch Sony crt that I love.

If I buy a new HDMI equipped monitor, I would pay more than for the hdfury, and also with the adapter solution I can have my multiple screens at multiple places, and simply move the adapter around with the camera.

I can afford to pay more for a dedicated screen, (mainly for framing and checking focus) but since I already own quite a few VGA monitors, I thought adapting the camera's hdmi out to vga would be the smartest thing to do.

Am I missing something?
 
You don't need an HDMI monitor.

You can get a DVI monitor for next to nothing and use a $5 adapter for the HDMI output.

Why would you want to mess with this? Isn't it mostly about framing and focus? I wouldn't think anyone was attempting to grade in camera, just be reassured about the image.

Anyway, I'm sticking with DVI and HDMI.
 
jimhare said:
You don't need an HDMI monitor.

You can get a DVI monitor for next to nothing and use a $5 adapter for the HDMI output.

Why would you want to mess with this? Isn't it mostly about framing and focus? I wouldn't think anyone was attempting to grade in camera, just be reassured about the image.

Anyway, I'm sticking with DVI and HDMI.
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I dont use HDMi anyway... But you are right, the HDMI port on the camera is not HDMI. Its DVI, thats why it doesnt work with some HDMI monitors. But it does work with most Samsung HDTV's.

You might be able to just use a DVI Cable to hook into your CRt's without this HD Fury thing-a-ma-jig.
 
Alex Carr said:
You might be able to just use a DVI Cable to hook into your CRt's without this HD Fury thing-a-ma-jig.
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macgregor said:
What´s the difference between this and a simple VGA-DVi adapter?
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Instead of going HDMI to DVI the to VGA, I thought that a simple HDMI to VGA would be better.

And I asked about hdfury specifically since it was well reviewed for PS3(basically the same function needed here), I want to confirm that one specific brand is compatible with Red, because I think that with adapters and converters you can never really be sure if they will work unless they have been tested.
 
Mo Kamal said:
Instead of going HDMI to DVI the to VGA, I thought that a simple HDMI to VGA would be better.

And I asked about hdfury specifically since it was well reviewed for PS3(basically the same function needed here), I want to confirm that one specific brand is compatible with Red, because I think that with adapters and converters you can never really be sure if they will work unless they have been tested.
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Not same function as PS3... Red One is DVI not HDMI. PS3 is HDMI
 
So you're saying that the hdmi port on the red carries a dvi signal?

I never really researched this whole dvi (vs) hdmi thing, but if it is like you're saying
then it still doesn't really matter, because the red's hdmi which is actually dvi still works on many hdmi screens, so basically it acts like hdmi. right?
 
Not Really... Its very hard to say 'exactly' what it is... But from all my experience it is a HDMI that carries DVI.

One thing I use is a HD-SDi to HDMI AJA Converter Box. (Whenever I'm not using a 720 or 1080 HD-SDI Monitor). This lets the HDMI act as a more robust HDMI Connection, I have not run into a HDTV that wont take this signal from the AJA.
 
HDMI is based on a the DVI spec. The video signal format is the same. That's why you can use a simple cable or adapter to switch between HDMI and DVI. Think of HDMI as simply a compact DVI-D connector that also carries multichannel digital audio and adheres to a specific subset of signal timings to keep it compatible with most HDTV hardware.

The RED's HDMI port and the signal that comes out of it is not really out of spec, it's just that many HDTVs don't like the uncommon dimensions of the image.

The DVI to VGA adapter you have linked at the Apple store will not work here. That is for connecting to the DVI-I port of a Mac or most any PC that has DVI-I functionality. The -I denotes integrated analog and digital signal hardware and means that VGA or RGBHV signals can be sent out of the DVI port and into a VGA / RGBHV monitor with one of these adapter cables. And Apple is charging way too much... That's really a $4 cable adapter.

If you want to convert DVI-D (-D is digital output only) to VGA, you will need an expensive converter box like AJA, Key Digital, Matrox, Gefen, etc.. And most of them will be just as finicky, if not more so, than HDMI or DVI monitors you connect directly to the RED with the proper cable.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
The DVI to VGA adapter you have linked at the Apple store will not work here. That is for connecting to the DVI-I port of a Mac or most any PC that has DVI-I functionality. The -I denotes integrated analog and digital signal hardware and means that VGA or RGBHV signals can be sent out of the DVI port and into a VGA / RGBHV monitor with one of these adapter cables. And Apple is charging way too much... That's really a $4 cable adapter.

If you want to convert DVI-D (-D is digital output only) to VGA, you will need an expensive converter box like AJA, Key Digital, Matrox, Gefen, etc.. And most of them will be just as finicky, if not more so, than HDMI or DVI monitors you connect directly to the RED with the proper cable.
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Yes I realized after I posted that it was DVI-I not DVI-D, still wouldn't something like this (HDMI female to DVI-I female adapter) + that apple adapter + VGA screen work, or do you know of a reason why a box would still be needed?
 
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