Peter Moretti
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You're just a troll. Will make a note to self to ignore you. Done.
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The Death of Avid...
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Jay Kim
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Guys, use whatever it works for you.
I learned Avid Film composer 15 years ago and switched to FCP when Apple released version 1.4.
I switched back to Avid when Apple released FCX.
It is a free market and you buy or use whatever it fits you.
I learned Avid Film composer 15 years ago and switched to FCP when Apple released version 1.4.
I switched back to Avid when Apple released FCX.
It is a free market and you buy or use whatever it fits you.
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Personally, I am disappointed with Avid. I started on Avid about 13 years ago. Switched to primarily FCP, but had some Avid projects in the past 13 years. Both of those felt like chores to do editing with compared to FCP. Constant crashes on actual Avid certified hardware and their components! With the FCPX debacle I knew I had to switch.
First, I switched to Avid since they announced MC 6 and I thought that was going to be it. Then MC 6 was released and I feel like it is crap. Not really much new in my opinion. Full of bugs and there's been minimal updates since it was released to fix those bugs. I submitted numerous bugs I found to Avid. One they didn't fix until the update last week, and some that even Avid has confirmed are bugs still haven't been fixed.
At the same time I was exploring Premiere Pro CS5.5 and found that to be far easier to use than Avid (minus the trimming), faster, and works with more native media. And now with CS6 the trimming ability in Premiere Pro is actually good.
Avid AMA is a joke and worthless. Native Red media support is nowhere near what Adobe is doing. The only people that are really die-hard Avid users are the ones that have been using Avid for over 15 years or went through some kind of Avid training program. I don't know anyone else that even thinks about Avid. It's just not easy or quick to use or figure anything out on. There's no intuitiveness about it. It's built for 1980's thinking and way of using computers. This is a different era. Computers are used differently now than when Avid was first created, but Avid really hasn't changed. Sure, they've played it safe with their existing user base, but that cost them a huge amount of marketshare and new users that have gone to Final Cut Pro and now are going to Adobe. Avid needs to be more forward-thinking, but they're not, and if they don't change they'll continue the downhill slope and disappear. But too many times companies aren't willing or don't know how to change and I won't be surprised if Avid dies.
First, I switched to Avid since they announced MC 6 and I thought that was going to be it. Then MC 6 was released and I feel like it is crap. Not really much new in my opinion. Full of bugs and there's been minimal updates since it was released to fix those bugs. I submitted numerous bugs I found to Avid. One they didn't fix until the update last week, and some that even Avid has confirmed are bugs still haven't been fixed.
At the same time I was exploring Premiere Pro CS5.5 and found that to be far easier to use than Avid (minus the trimming), faster, and works with more native media. And now with CS6 the trimming ability in Premiere Pro is actually good.
Avid AMA is a joke and worthless. Native Red media support is nowhere near what Adobe is doing. The only people that are really die-hard Avid users are the ones that have been using Avid for over 15 years or went through some kind of Avid training program. I don't know anyone else that even thinks about Avid. It's just not easy or quick to use or figure anything out on. There's no intuitiveness about it. It's built for 1980's thinking and way of using computers. This is a different era. Computers are used differently now than when Avid was first created, but Avid really hasn't changed. Sure, they've played it safe with their existing user base, but that cost them a huge amount of marketshare and new users that have gone to Final Cut Pro and now are going to Adobe. Avid needs to be more forward-thinking, but they're not, and if they don't change they'll continue the downhill slope and disappear. But too many times companies aren't willing or don't know how to change and I won't be surprised if Avid dies.
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Mike, the hands down advantage that Avid has is in big projects requiring shared storage and multiple editors. There really is no great alternative. So when people talk about Avid's reliability, that's generally what they are talking about.
If you had constant crashes then something must have been wrong, even certified hardware can get out of spec or not be maintained in terms of driver, QT and OS versions. Over the past five years, I've found Avid to be far and away the most reliable NLE. But I spent probably a month, no kidding, specing and configuring my PC and installing MC.
I agree with your complaints about AMA and the overall clunkiness of MC. I've mentioned these types of shortcomings many times on the Avid user forums and to people who work for Avid. In some ways Avid is very approachable and seems to listen, but in other ways not. It's very perplexing and I realy don't have any great insight into where the company is headed.
If you had constant crashes then something must have been wrong, even certified hardware can get out of spec or not be maintained in terms of driver, QT and OS versions. Over the past five years, I've found Avid to be far and away the most reliable NLE. But I spent probably a month, no kidding, specing and configuring my PC and installing MC.
I agree with your complaints about AMA and the overall clunkiness of MC. I've mentioned these types of shortcomings many times on the Avid user forums and to people who work for Avid. In some ways Avid is very approachable and seems to listen, but in other ways not. It's very perplexing and I realy don't have any great insight into where the company is headed.