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The Best plates for DSCM2 ?

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Olivier Gresse

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Sorry if this topic has already been discussed

I would like to know what are the best plates for the DSMC2 for you (Top/cheese plate, Right/Left plate...) and especially on the Epic-w Helium?

I saw that Red, Wooden Camera, Arri or OMOD have their own accesories and I would like to talk with you about of what are advantages and incovenients of each.

Does the top plate of Wooden Camera does not prevent connecting the dsmc2 red OLED EVF wireless on the Epic-W?

Thanks
 
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I feel like every plate have pluses and minuses, it's up to you to choose what works best for you.

- Arri is more expensive and got back and front 15mm support, but DOSN'T have any mounting holes on the side. looks so bad ass though.

- Wooden Camera you can add 15mm bracket at the back or front and it has mounting holes on the side and after many thoughts I feel I like it's my favourite, even though it's not a sleek machined as ARRI.

- Movcam has the benefit of build in dovetail at the bottom (so you don't need to add a clamp for that like on the ARRI and WC), but you CAN'T add 15mm support on the back. does save you some money from not needing to buy an extra clamp if you want to use a Dovetail.

- RED - no mounting holes on the assault plate and no way to attach rods at the back. very well build and really sits nicely on the camera.
 
To add to what Oron says about the Arri plates

The ARRI plates are well made.. Their 15mm bottom plate has rosettes either side which I find very very useful. Also the 15mm back bar setup allow me to mount all the usual crap (audio hops, teredecks, TC boxes etc etc) behind the centre of mass which helps me a lot... Use a wooden camera L accessory plate and 15mm bar adpater to do so.

Also there are loads of cheap (and expensive) shoulder pads that attach to 15mm bars that work well with the 15mm bars at the back..

Another neat feature of the 15mm bars is you only turn the kip on one side to lock or release both the 15mm bars

ARRI's top plate really makes sense if you use the dedicated handle and mounting Gear for EVF and monitor.. I am also a fan of the 3/8 with anti twist pins that arri favours.. The top plate also keep really clear of the wifi antenna...

My studio Instagram has a few shots of the arri stuff but if interested I can send some more pics ...

I also have the wooden camera plates and for setups without a Evf or shoulder work I find it fine. Good price! It is what we are running with the scarlet w

The Offhollywood stuff looks very light and it being passive has some advantages in a few setups.. (But I have no direct experience with the Offhollywood plates)


Oron Cohen said:
I feel like every plate have pluses and minuses, it's up to you to choose what works best for you.

- Arri is more expensive and got back and front 15mm support, but DOSN'T have any mounting holes on the side. looks so bad ass though.

- Wooden Camera you can add 15mm bracket at the back or front and it has mounting holes on the side and after many thoughts I feel I like it's my favourite, even though it's not a sleek machined as ARRI.

- Movcam has the benefit of build in dovetail at the bottom (so you don't need to add a clamp for that like on the ARRI and WC), but you CAN'T add 15mm support on the back. does save you some money from not needing to buy an extra clamp if you want to use a Dovetail.

- RED - no mounting holes on the assault plate and no way to attach rods at the back. very well build and really sits nicely on the camera.
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Thanks Oron

In fact for the base, I think I will take the Arri Broadcast Plate with shoulder mount, it has support for rods to place a Mattebox or Follow focus and has Rosettes. Besides, I already have a VCT plate and the Arri uses it. On this subject, do you know what kind of arms, I can use on these rosettes ?

For the top, I think I would take the arri or the WC, I'm just worried about the fact that the WC use the DSMC2 red Oled EVF port and I would like to take the Red Oled EVF with mount pack to use it without cable.

I don't really see the utlity of side plate so I don't think I will take it.

Do you know if I have to buy another plate for my Epic-W ?
 
Olivier Gresse said:
Thanks Oron

In fact for the base, I think I will take the Arri Broadcast Plate with shoulder mount, it has support for rods to place a Mattebox or Follow focus and has Rosettes. Besides, I already have a VCT plate and the Arri uses it. On this subject, do you know what kind of arms, I can use on these rosettes ?

For the top, I think I would take the arri or the WC, I'm just worried about the fact that the WC use the DSMC2 red Oled EVF port and I would like to take the Red Oled EVF with mount pack to use it without cable.

I don't really see the utlity of side plate so I don't think I will take it.

Do you know if I have to buy another plate for my Epic-W ?
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Arri uses standard rosettes, so any kind of arms that uses standard rosettes. WC have them, ARRI have ones, Movecam and even the cheaper Smallrig as well. btw, did you check the new Zacuto pro VCT plate? it works with RED and it's less then 1/2 the price of the ARRI, got Rosette, got back and front 15mm: http://www.zacuto.com/vct-baseplate

For the top I will seriously consider the Movcam top plate, because you keep the evf port functionality and get two SDI out: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...ov_303_2601_multi_function_top_plate_for.html , http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?140397-New-Movcam-DSMC2-accessories-power-display-audio
 
Michael Lindsay said:
Pretty sure it doesn't work with Reds high optical enter?
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as far as I know from the former VCT plate (which is more or less the same) it does work well, as you could flip the rod clamp riser at the front to work with cameras like the the RED. see picture here: http://store.zacuto.com/images/products/secondary/z-cer-5.jpg

Also, just bare in mind, that almost any baseplate on the planet should work fine with any RED camera by simply adding a sperate rod riser at the front. I'm adding a picture of a set up I had a couple of years ago on a shoot with a very old Chrosziel baseplate that was meant for god knows which camera and a simple rod riser added (also by chrosziel) to get the mattebox to the right hight etc.

People use the specific base plates for RED because they are more slick, but almost anything will work fine. I actually really liked that setup on that shoot. for hand held I added a Vocas shoulder pad to the back rods and Vocas hand grips on the front.
 

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Michael Lindsay said:
Pretty sure it doesn't work with Reds high optical enter?
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We have a taller rod riser that we can put on the VCT Pro to work with Reds high optical center. You can email me and I can help you out. If anyone wants to try it out, shoot me an email!
mandy@zacuto.com

Thanks!
 
Adolfo CV said:
I'm really digging the Arri design. Any idea who's selling it in the US? I could only find it at CVP (UK shop).
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Presumably Abel. Anyone know where to find a reverse angle photo to see how the Lemo port is positioned? Or even a photo of the plate installed on a body?
 
Thanks Oron. Bought it. I'll tell you how it compares to WC (that I used to have on my Scarlet mx)
 
Anyone rocking the new VCT Pro from Zacuto yet? Would love to see some pics.
 
Just received the Smallrig baseplate.
You get what you pay for. Ok for 50€ maybe, but definitely far from WC (at least from the only one I know, that is the first one I had for Scarlet MX).
QC not so good: I had to replace 1 of the 2 different screws provided as the 1/4 one couldn't really lock with just 1 and a half thread turn!
If I had to replace the one behind I would have needed a non standard screw (hole for the head has smaller diameter than Manfrotto screws).
Metal on the rods loop is soft. I can near like half cm with no efforts the ends of 20cm long rods
 
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