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Tangent Wave vs Euphonix MC Color

Philipe Ratton said:
Which one would you buy to use with COLOR and why ?
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What's up again, Philipe! I'd buy the Wave because then I could use it with DaVinci too once I got tired of Color's limitations :)

Seriously, if you're thinking of spending money in a panel, you really should not be using Color. DaVinci is just a ton better.

At the moment, only Wave works with DaVinci (or their $30,000 controller). So it's a no-brainer - get the Wave if you need to work now. But assuming MC Color will work with the DaVinci soon, here's my comparison:

MC Color has much nicer trackballs. But connectivity is more of a pain (ethernet plus power). And the displays show less. There are a lot of hotkeys. Plus you'll need to get the MC Transport as well (otherwise you have to use the right-hand transport to jog-scroll).

On the other hand, the Wave feels more like plastic.

My bet is that come NAB 2011 or 2012 one of the two companies will come out with a v2 of their product and it'll rule the roost :)

Or JL Cooper could actually make something cheap?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Hey Bruce !
When I finish my next short you will definetely be on my special thanks list.
I was reading the specs for Davinvi and it requires lots of stuff I dont have.
I have a mac pro 8, with an ati radeon 5870, a kona lhi and a CalDigit 4TB HDElement.
So I think I'll be sticking to COLOR for now and getting the Wave thinking of a future upgrade to davinci. Does it make any sense ?
 
Because I use a Tangent CP200 and want to make the switch to DaVinci, I inquired with Tangent Devices what's the status on CP200 support for Davinci. They told me that they're working on it 24/7 and that it's on it's way. So the CP200 should be an option too if you're considering upgrading later on. Keep in mind that the recommended specs for DaVinci are just a recommendation. Some is mandatory but some of it is optional as well.

The CP200 is expensive, but well worth the investment I think.
Once you've worked with the solid aluminum extruded CP200 the Wave feels really "plasticky" it's a great panel though, and I really like it's versatility in Color.

I used the JL Cooper once too, but really didn't like the ergonomics. (And I really hated the fake granite look too)

And I can't comment on the MC Color, I have never worked with it. But I do know Euphonix create quality products.

If you can afford it go for the CP200, if you're on a budget I would go for the Wave, for the price it's an awesome panel.
It's got good readouts, great control features in Color and is easy to connect.
The USB connection is really nice, especially if you want to use it on a different computer some times (for example on set grading). The ethernet models are a pain to install quickly.
 
Beer Buijsman said:
The ethernet models are a pain to install quickly.
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It doesn't take that long to install the ethernet panel. Once installed, it just works. As an additional benefit, the ethernet panel can use very long ethernet cables and it can be networked very easily. Not so easy with USB.
 
That is completely true... But we had some trouble installing the ethernet CP200 in the beginning, kept changing ip adresses.
That's fixed now though, and the new 3.6 drivers are an improvement too.

Just really like the plug-and-play'ability of the usb panels myself :)
 
Bruce Allen said:
What's up again, Philipe! I'd buy the Wave because then I could use it with DaVinci too once I got tired of Color's limitations :)

Seriously, if you're thinking of spending money in a panel, you really should not be using Color. DaVinci is just a ton better.

At the moment, only Wave works with DaVinci (or their $30,000 controller). So it's a no-brainer - get the Wave if you need to work now. But assuming MC Color will work with the DaVinci soon, here's my comparison:

MC Color has much nicer trackballs. But connectivity is more of a pain (ethernet plus power). And the displays show less. There are a lot of hotkeys. Plus you'll need to get the MC Transport as well (otherwise you have to use the right-hand transport to jog-scroll).

On the other hand, the Wave feels more like plastic.

My bet is that come NAB 2011 or 2012 one of the two companies will come out with a v2 of their product and it'll rule the roost :)

Or JL Cooper could actually make something cheap?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
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Bruce, you rock and totally agree with you on this...
 
There are reviews over at the Cow too (Color forum).
 
I'm pretty sure Davinci/BM have stated that panel support is on the manufacturers, not them. So it's Euphonix writing a plugin, not Davinci changing the software to support it. Also pretty sure Euphonix is on record as saying the MC Color will, in fact, be supported. Don't know timelines, though.
 
there is currently no API or SDK for Resolve so its not up to the manufacturers of the panels, its up to BM to release the API & SDK so the manufactures can do what they need to do.
 
I'm waiting for the TANGENT ELEMENT as it should be coming out like ... now - as i'm writing this.
 
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