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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Storage 101...

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The PATA flash is not fast enough...

Jim
 
Jannard said:
CF (Compact Flash). With the sppeds and capacity increasing dramatically before our eyes, we see CF as an alternative in the near future so we are providing for it now. You will HAVE to carefully select CF that meets speed specs (we'll help you out) and select a "standard" quality setting to record 4k REDCODE RAW. But it will be possible by Summer or early Fall.
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Why so late? Isn't it possible before with the camera delivery?
 
A Stuart post hinted that you can configure the RED-DRIVE as RAID-0. Is this true? Security/Safety on a budget...
 
Brook Willard said:
The same as the RED DRIVE... at least as far as we're concerned. The camera can only compress so much REDCODE per second. Since 4K@30p is the max that the camera can compress to REDCODE RAW per second, any higher data rate possible with the RED RAM is moot.
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It's not moot, just as one example, if "lesser" compression schemes could be worked out for overcranked 4K footage. For example, just in theory, if Red RAM could record at 125MB/s, the processor might be able to compress 4k 48fps footage at a rate much higher than 27MB/s -- say, 100MB/s -- with no greater demand on the processor.

It's just a thought. Somehow, some way, someone is going to figure out how to use Flash memory to record overcranked 4k.... :weight_lift:
 
Jannard said:
Drives are cheaper... Flash is better.

If you ask any questions about shock ratings, weather resistance or security, skip right to Flash and do not use Drives. If you are CAREFUL and on a budget, Drives can serve you well.

CF (Compact Flash). But it will be possible by Summer or early Fall.

Express Card- same story as above, different format

SATA 1.8" drives. We had hoped that these would be ready by NAB, but they are delayed a few months.

64GB RED RAM- this is two 2.5" Flash drives housed in an off camera SATA housing, very similar to the RED DRIVE case. This is what we believe most Professionals will use because of the security and speed of the unit.
Hope this helps.

Jim
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So is the only flash storage option available to the first 500 users the RedRAM?
 
Jannard said:
If you ask any questions about shock ratings, weather resistance or security, skip right to Flash and do not use Drives. If you are CAREFUL and on a budget, Drives can serve you well.
Jim
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How is it comparable to the Viper flash? I've talked to some DP's about the use of them in exterior shoots with unpredictable weather, but RED flash it may be worth the extra lettuce...

Maybe I'll just use the Drive until I see where the flash bandwagon goes. Or rent the various flash units to determine which I like.

Thanks for the summary.

F**k this budget. My girlfriends going to hate this.


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Chris Kenny said:
Can you guys support P2 as well? I really like buying my flash memory at 6x market price. :devil:
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Yes, I'd love to use those 8GB P2 cards that cost me roughly $148/GB! :angry01:

RED RAM is a freaking bargain compared to P2 media it's only $70/GB. I was planning on two RED DRIVES and perhaps one of the FLASH modules, but I think I'm going for a RED DRIVE and a RED RAM. Perhaps by August/September (when I guestimate I'll get my camera), they'll be able to bump the RED RAM capacity -- that would sure be nice too.

Anyway, I'm going to sell my HVX200 an P2 cards ASAP while the resale value is still there. Once people go to NAB and all the details are out, I think the market value of the HVX and a lot of prosumer gear (at least as far as indie guys and creative shooters are concerned) is going to fall in the toilet. A year ago I was excited having my new HVX... Today I look at it and I feel as if I got taken by a used care salesman.
 
I got rid of my HVX about two months ago. It was good for 720p, but now 720p is the new mini-DV.
 
AppliedVisual said:
A year ago I was excited having my new HVX... Today I look at it and I feel as if I got taken by a used care salesman.
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lol, I know the feeling, then again, it has made me quite a bit of money and it gave me a toy to fall back on at all times, I'll always be thankful for the HVX with or without its flaws.
 
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Jannard said:
64GB RED RAM- this is two 2.5" Flash drives housed in an off camera SATA housing, very similar to the RED DRIVE case. This is what we believe most Professionals will use because of the security and speed of the unit.
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I have a couple of question before deciding what package do I need...

- Tell me if I´m wrong but you get something like 40 minutes of footage from the Red Ram 64 GB when shooting 4K redcode @ 24fps ?.

- Is Redcode going to be able to encode the full speed of the sensor 4K@60fps in the future into Red Ram or Red Drive ?.

- The photo adaptors are going to be PL to EF adaptors or a whole new mount that needs to get rid of the standard PL ?.

Thanks
 
A year ago I wrote one of the very first magazine reviews of the HVX (April - Studio Monthly). Now it seems like two or three years ago. A lot of water has gone under the bridge since then!

On another note...I can't seem to get away from this forum, keyboard, and refresh button tonight! For hours now every time I hit refresh there are several new posts on multiple threads. How's a guy supposed to shut his computer down and go to bed when her's paranoid he might miss something?! I got this natural RED buzz going...and I'm liking it!

(Jarred hasn't updated the RED User clock for the California time change yesterday. My time on my post is an hour behind when I made it. It's 11:49 in California)
 
Alexander Nikishin said:
lol, I know the feeling, then again, it has made me quite a bit of money and it gave me a toy to fall back on at all times, I'll always be thankful for the HVX with or without its flaws.
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That's true.... The HVX did serve me farily well. Perhaps not as well as I had envisioned when I bought it, but all my complaints with it are mostly directed at P2 pricing and politics. I never cared for the ergonomics of the HVX (and the DVX I owned before it), but that was a small trade-off for the benefits these cameras offered over their competition at the time.

On the bright side, selling my HVX and P2 gear should give me enough to buy a nice tripod system or a new Mac Pro or whatever I decide to mark the funds for. :w00t:
 
Gibby said:
On another note...I can't seem to get away from this forum, keyboard, and refresh button tonight! For hours now every time I hit refresh there are several new posts on multiple threads. How's a guy supposed to shut his computer down and go to bed when her's paranoid he might miss something?! I got this natural RED buzz going...and I'm liking it!
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I've had that exact same problem for the last 6 weeks or so... I'd call it an addiction, but it's probably lack of any real work to do other than babysitting a render farm all day long.
 
AppliedVisual said:
I've had that exact same problem for the last 6 weeks or so... I'd call it an addiction, but it's probably lack of any real work to do other than babysitting a render farm all day long.
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You've heard of Panama Red...well I think this high/addiction is Lake Forest RED. Good stuff braddah...
 
(bump from the back of the bus to the front for the EFP folks)

RED RAM for stability or RED DRIVE for economy?

J*
 
This probably is a really dumb question, but bear with me, as I don't know so much about technics (and yes, someone who doesn't know so much about technics shouldn't have a RED camera, but don't worry, I can't pay one, but I support RED, thus my staying here):

can the 320 gigabyte RED DRIVE be used with a HVX?

I know the answer is a very probably 'no', but still, you never know, doesn't hurt to ask.

Thanks,
 
sidderke said:
can the 320 gigabyte RED DRIVE be used with a HVX?
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No. A FireStore or similar has hardware/software in it that knows how to take a DV or DVCPRO HD stream coming in over FireWire and write it to disk. The Red Drive doesn't know how to do this, and doesn't even have a FireWire port (it uses SATA, via a custom connector).
 
Chris Kenny said:
No. A FireStore or similar has hardware/software in it that knows how to take a DV or DVCPRO HD stream coming in over FireWire and write it to disk. The Red Drive doesn't know how to do this, and doesn't even have a FireWire port (it uses SATA, via a custom connector).
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Thanks!
 
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