STOP MOTION feature request

[Ivars Svarcs]

Hi

First of all, would like to start with thanking RED Team for enabling time-lapse feature. Used a lot. Love it!

I would like to see how many of us would be interested in STOP MOTION feature.
Im not sure if it is technically possible to make single R3D container with all single frames combined but it should be possible to make single frame R3D file.

Currently to make stop motion it is needed to record regular video and then cut out single frames using REDCINE-X PRO (as R3DSnapshots)
It would make life much easier if single frames could be made already in the camera.

Have send Feature request with no response.

 

[Thomas Gavin Murray]

bump, great suggestion

 

[Patrick Tresch]

At 1fp/shot why don't you use a photocamera? It's less heavy, expensive and cumbersome as a Weapon/Raptor.
BTW I think you can trigger 1 frame no? Isn't it called DSMC?

 

[Ivars Svarcs]

At 1fp/shot why don't you use a photocamera? It's less heavy, expensive and cumbersome as a Weapon/Raptor.

..it so happens that there is answer on this one.
Last week, was asked to do some Hyperlapses as well as regular city BRoll shots + timelapses for a project. If BRoll and regular timelapses (thanks to RED team implementing it in firmware update) there was no problem but for hyperlapses i needed to take with me second camera body (Stills camera) to do hyperlapses. So instead of caring single camera body i turned out to caring extra gear. That is for one.

Second - why on earth would you want to use different sensors, different color sciences, different workflows to do your project?
Obviously, there will never be ideal camera that can do everything and change its form factor to fit every occasional but this one can be done.

BTW I think you can trigger 1 frame no? Isn't it called DSMC?

Thank you about this point thou.

Missed the fact that you can actually set:
Project Settings:
Recording mode - Timelapse
Timelapse - Interval time 1s
Timelapse - Frames per Interval 1s

That results in single .R3D frame. Will try to use this to create Hyperlapce and see how easy workflow will it be at the end.

But for quick and dirty. Still.
One single .R3D file where between capturing frames you have possibility to rearrange your scene or change your physical location and reframe to make your frame move around object/subject would be game changer.

 

[Luka Sanader]

as someone who shoot stop motion puppet films on 35mm and on digital i can say that use of DragonFrame is absolut must now days. For exsample last Stop motion i shoot we have converted Fries Mitchell R35 camera to work with digital Video Tap that was run on Dragon frame as any other Sony or Canon cam with only differance that we had build the widget to trigger 35mm film camera over 3 pin Fisher, every time digital cam would capture the frame... in similar way you can run Reds over the SDI jetpack: Plug your SDI in to a capture card connect your camera controle over the LAN adapter cable and off you go. This is as good as you will get the DSMC running in DragonFrame.
Unfortunatly there is no way to capture and transfer R3D frame over the USB to Dragonframe.
I guess that this could be a future option: full integration of DSMC3 and Dragonframe but the question is who would use it? Why would anyone buy 30k Red Raptor and put about 8000 hours on it in 6 months of a production instead of using 3000$ Sony A7RV? or canon R7 that are allready fully integrated in Dragonframe workflow

 

[Thomas Gavin Murray]

as someone who shoot stop motion puppet films on 35mm and on digital i can say that use of DragonFrame is absolut must now days. For exsample last Stop motion i shoot we have converted Fries Mitchell R35 camera to work with digital Video Tap that was run on Dragon frame as any other Sony or Canon cam with only differance that we had build the widget to trigger 35mm film camera over 3 pin Fisher, every time digital cam would capture the frame... in similar way you can run Reds over the SDI jetpack: Plug your SDI in to a capture card connect your camera controle over the LAN adapter cable and off you go. This is as good as you will get the DSMC running in DragonFrame.
Unfortunatly there is no way to capture and transfer R3D frame over the USB to Dragonframe.
I guess that this could be a future option: full integration of DSMC3 and Dragonframe but the question is who would use it? Why would anyone buy 30k Red Raptor and put about 8000 hours on it in 6 months of a production instead of using 3000$ Sony A7RV? or canon R7 that are allready fully integrated in Dragonframe workflow

Just want to toss out that this would be great for very rare moments, I do occasional stop motion mixed with live action and it's great to be able to use the same camera for both. Here's one we did a lot of experimentation with to try and get live action to intercut with the stop motion/high shutter feel: https://vimeo.com/376714731. Have also done it on the occasional spot. Not to say you can't color correct the cameras to be closer, it's just nice to be able to have the same camera for post.

We were on a Scarlet Dragon body, hooked up to dragon frame, and triggering single frames very carefully.

 

[andrewhake]

Mirrorless cameras will be king for stop motion with DragonFrame. Would definitely be cool if Red could work with them to support capture of JPEG of live feed and R3Ds at the same time though for sure.