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Still Unsure About Element Technica?

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Don't be! Just the other day a friend of mine asked why he should consider Element Technica gear over a more 'default' setup. What differences are there, why would one want to consider a dovetail and so on. So I wrote the following for those who are unsure about the pros and cons of such an investment specifically the Element Technica Dovetail and Element Technica Arri 19mm Bridge Plate.

Of course there are already great posts about Element Technica (ET) gear. This writeup is meant to compliment those posts along with Finner’s excellent video review posted here.

Overall, there is a reason why many Red One setups include Element Technica gear as required accessories. Read on to determine if this is true for you too!

First, take a look at the photo below. A more or less familiar sight. The quick release plate, the single mounting screw. A tripod head. This is what you would normally see if you purchased an O’Connor 1030HD or 1030HDS fluid head package or many other tripods for that matter. As you know, the part with the screw is mounted directly beneath your camera so you can take your camera on and off the tripod quickly.

At least for the O’Connor, this camera quick release plate attaches to a slide plate, which in turn slides across the top of the tripod head itself. So between these two parts you can 1) quickly attach/remove your camera from the tripod, and 2) slide the camera forward or back for better counterbalance depending on your configuration (some brands/tripod heads do not offer this second function):

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Now, let’s take this familiar sight and compare them with those from Element Technica:

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The function of the parts are similar but as you can see we are no longer dealing with the same variables here. On the left is Element Technica’s Arri 19mm Red Bridge Plate matched with an Element Technica 1030 Dovetail. On the right is the O’Connor camera quick plate and sliding plate from before. Side by side the purpose of the ET parts on the left should become easier to understand. Afterall, they serve a function similar to the parts on the right. The ET bridge plate is akin to the quick release camera plate and the dovetail is similar to a sliding plate.

Beyond this simple comparison however, the ET/Arri gear does much more.

Check out the photo below of the Element Technica 1030HD Dovetail we’ve all been hearing about and compare this with the default O’Connor Mini European Quick Release Plate:

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The version shown here is the 12” Element Technica 1030HD Dovetail. This is one solid, finely machined part. You could fend off a pitbull attack with this piece it is so durable. With the smaller quick plate, you could possibly throw it through the air like a shuriken ninja star but then that would only make a pitbull angry. So don’t do that.
 
Anyway, when mounted on a tripod head the differences and advantages are quite apparent. Take a look and compare:

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The Element Technica dovetail effectively extends the amount of tripod your camera can travel over, forward and back, for better counterbalance. Camera nodding forward like a sleep deprived drunk driver? Slide the camera back on the dovetail. Camera too rear heavy? Slide the camera forward like so:

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If this were not enough, the dovetail itself can slide forward or back for even greater adjustments:

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The dovetail is easy enough to install. Once you remove the quick release plate that came with your tripod you should see something like this:

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And now you simply slide the dovetail as shown here:

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Of course you will need a way to attach your camera to the dovetail and this is where the Element Technica Arri 19mm Bridge Plate comes in:

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This bridge plate connects directly to the underside of your Red One camera. Flip this extremely well made component over and you see two screws not just one for this purpose. Compare this with your typical quick release plate:

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The result is a very solid, strong support base yet the bridge plate can travel over the length of the dovetail too:

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The bridge plate also allows for rods as you can see, which in turn supports any number of film and video accessories like matte boxes or follow focuses.

Now if it is not already apparent from the photos above several advantages reveal themselves with this kind of setup. They include:

- Better support and counterbalance options for your Red One. There are dual battery setups for example, which you mount towards the rear of your camera and thus making it heavier in the back. Or you may have a variety of lenses that include a long and heavy telephoto or zoom like the upcoming 18-85mm from Red. Remember too that there are a number of accessories you may want to use from shoot to shoot like matte boxes or wireless follow focus units and motors. In any of these cases you would be better covered counterbalance wise with an Element Technica dovetail and bridge plate.

- Compatibility with existing Arri equipment. Already mentioned in other posts of course but worthwhile for those who have Arri gear or rent a lot of Arri equipment.

- More durable and stronger than the existing quick plate of your tripod. Also more stable and solid than the current Red shoulder dovetail especially for heavier setups. ET gear will definitely outlast most of your equipment. This durability goes a long way if you're renting your camera out and much of your income is due to rentals.

Disadvantages include the following:

- More expensive than if you were to go with just the quick plate of your tripod. Also more expensive if you were to buy the Element Technica bridge plate and dovetail and purchase Red accessories seperately rather than with the Base Production Pack.

- No built in shoulder support compared with the Red Base Production Pack and Red shoulder dovetail. However, the shoulder operation with the Red Base Production Pack is not exactly the best either and I think many professionals would opt for a dedicated shoulder mount solution to go with their ET gear. Also keep in mind that you would need to buy a shoulder mount solution anyway if you had just the default quick release plate that came with your tripod.

- Heavier than the typical quick release plate that came with your camera.

In summary I think the Element Technica gear is a great purchase. The products are finely crafted and machined and the support and customer service is absolutely oustanding at Element Technica. The investment is definitely worth it if you are considering Element Technica gear.
 
Great post Osler Go!

well deserved credits to ET, they do produce some of the best gear I have seen out there.

I already have their ARRI B. in 19" and asap as I get the EVF (hope any day now) I'll get the EVF mount as well as the Break Out Box, and the Cheese plate, an other great thing to have on the RED at only 300oz.

Again, great post! ET, take note, we do love your gear and much appreciate the work you guys are doing.

Btw, it was a pleasure meeting them at the RED party during NAB, Sthephen Pizzo and his partner are great fellows.

Ciao
 
As you all know by now the Ninjas an all ET all the time operation now.
#199 looks like one of Jim's dragsters all decked out in ET logos and "ID by Red" everywhere. Seriously though, the EVF mount is genius, the 9" dovetail is a permanent addition to my 1030S and the break out box is just simply imperative.
 
Hello,

Dude, you seriously rock. There are so few good photos like this to give more detail on all the mounting gear. Very very cool.

It would be nice if RED could gather some good photographs of different mounting gear configurations. They have a few pics on the website, but they are so dark you can't really make out the parts.

Or am I just looking in the wrong place?

Thanks for posting!

ATF
 
Thanks guys!

ATF, I know what you mean, not too much info on this kind of gear, wish there was more. Finner's website should help a lot along with the Reduser community and FreshDV.

Anyway, if you haven't already, check out Element Technica's website to purchase your own ET gear.
 
Something really worth a sticky. This should be the standard for all info threads. Easy to understand. Great pictures from different angles. Clear concise communication.
 
We need Osler to love Monstercine as much as ET! The ET guys are great people and after meeting them at NAB we left behind a Hydra Clamp and they showed it to a lot of people on our behalf. We greatly appreciate their support and the cool camera tools.

I would send Osler your complete range for review.
 
We love it!

Thanks Osler. Aside from the kind words this has a good deal of technical info that really helps explain the benefits of the system.

We know we need to do more when it comes to providing details about our products and the standards we comply with.

FWIW we are working on a dovetail/fluid head compatibility and usage chart as well as an iris rod length calculator for the website.

Thanks for the support and keep letting us know what you need.
 
These are very helpful illustrations. But one thing which isn't mentioned here or in Finner's video -- the big reason to purchase the bridge plate from ET is that you can't combine the base plate from the Base Production Pack with the 9'' ET 1030 dovetail -- they don't complement each other. The size of the RED base plate makes it conflict with the tripod handle mounts (speaking only for the 1030, which I have). You can't slide it up and down the plate, like you can with the shorter bridge plate, so your range of movement for balancing your camera is severely restricted. Which is the point of buying the dovetail in the first place....

That's why you need both, to make the most of the dovetail. The bridge plate will let you slide the camera up and down the full range of the dovetail. The RED base plate slides forward a bit, but bangs up against the handle mounts, if you try to slide it towards the back.

The hard part is figuring out what to do with that teeny tiny little screw that holds together the European plate, once you dismantle it...
 
We love it!

Thanks Osler. Aside from the kind words this has a good deal of technical info that really helps explain the benefits of the system.

We know we need to do more when it comes to providing details about our products and the standards we comply with.

FWIW we are working on a dovetail/fluid head compatibility and usage chart as well as an iris rod length calculator for the website.

Thanks for the support and keep letting us know what you need.


Hi Stephen,
Your dovetails for 2060 are still on back order?I paid one month ago.
I got 1030 one with arri base plate.It rocks.I neeeeed the 2060. Please.
Thx,
Babu
 
Hey Babubu,

I know the 2060/2575 Arri dovetails have been a long time coming but we are days away from shipping.

Here is a sneak peak of what we are sending to anodizing tonight.

Thanks for your patience.
 
Beautiful, Stephen. Just out of curiosity - what kind of aluminum is that? (unless that's a trade secret)...
 
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