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STH or LLO for my new Dragon?

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Guy Staley

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Just sent my Scarlet in to be Dragonized and am trying to decide which OLPF to have installed. I'm leaning towards LLO, but am interested to hear other's opinions. I will be using this primarily for narrative and music video work, but also looking to doing more doc-type work in available lighting.

Expressed opinions greatly appreciated!
 
Both.

They're both have their strong and weak qualities. I would recommend to check Shane Hurlbut's OLPF tests on his website too.
 
call me. ill give you my two cents
 
To be clear: Eventually I will buy both OLPFs, but yeah, I need to tell RDC which one to install with the new sensor.
 
I have both and use STH for 95% of the work. Most of it in available light.
Simply produces better images, grain is very controllable except in the most extreme of low light situations.
You can comfortably push it to 1000 ISO and beyond and still have good results.
 
I have both and I have used the STH almost never. Unless shooting in bright day light or a set with overwhelming amount of light I could not justify screwing it on.
I would rate the STH good at base ISO 300, pushable to 1000 in post and LLO at ISO 800 pushable to 2000 in post.

Just my 5 cents.
 
Depends on what you shoot the most. If unsure, just get both. The cost of getting both those OLPFs is so small. I for one had read all those scary threads about high noise and were terrified that I would get bad looking footage. I must say, in all honesty that it's all bullcrap. Yes, you get more noise with the STH, but the noise is really really good looking. It's not that digital sensor-grid like noise you usally get with digital cameras, but a texture more close to film than anything else. It's organic and good looking. At the same time, the highlights doesn't clip as bad and the skin tones are pretty much what we've all screamed we wanted for years.

If you shoot mostly practicals and low light it's obvious that you should go with the LLO, but don't be so afraid of the noise with your STH, it's not as bad as some people say and if you shoot more with strong highlights, daytime etc. you should definetely get the STH. If uncertain get both.

It all really comes down to how well you know the camera and how to work with it. It's a bit different to how you worked with MX, but that's the beauty of owning a camera, you can test and try and experiment until you master it. That's more important than what OLPF you have.
 
Christoffer Glans said:
Depends on what you shoot the most. If unsure, just get both. The cost of getting both those OLPFs is so small. I for one had read all those scary threads about high noise and were terrified that I would get bad looking footage. I must say, in all honesty that it's all bullcrap. Yes, you get more noise with the STH, but the noise is really really good looking. It's not that digital sensor-grid like noise you usally get with digital cameras, but a texture more close to film than anything else. It's organic and good looking. At the same time, the highlights doesn't clip as bad and the skin tones are pretty much what we've all screamed we wanted for years.

If you shoot mostly practicals and low light it's obvious that you should go with the LLO, but don't be so afraid of the noise with your STH, it's not as bad as some people say and if you shoot more with strong highlights, daytime etc. you should definetely get the STH. If uncertain get both.

It all really comes down to how well you know the camera and how to work with it. It's a bit different to how you worked with MX, but that's the beauty of owning a camera, you can test and try and experiment until you master it. That's more important than what OLPF you have.
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That's great input Christoffer. I can't wait to try out my new OLPF's in both extremes.
 
I shoot in daylight with lowlight all the time. Beautiful. But I expose properly.
 
I would personally go with LLO, but it really depends on your work. Honestly, the other OLPF is only $200. If you can afford going to the Dragon sensor, you should be able to afford the extra $200. It's really worth it knowing that you can tackle whatever situation you have for a shoot.
 
I use LLO almost all the time. Its only downfall is the flare. Thats it. The skin tones have a slightly more magenta/purple so yo have to add a bit of green. With STH my green on most situations daylight or LED is around -5 and with the LLO its around 0 to +5.
 
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