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A quote from an article on Mr. Speilberg...

"Sadly, in twenty years, movies will all go digital. There will be no photochemical steps - no film, no developing, no correcting the color in the lab and having a hellacious time doing it. It will all be too easy and very clean and very slick and, I think, very souless. The little imperfections are what make film a great art. When it loses that -"
He can't even finish the sentence.

Thoughts...?
 
HardRockCA said:
A quote from an article on Mr. Speilberg...

"Sadly, in twenty years, movies will all go digital. There will be no photochemical steps - no film, no developing, no correcting the color in the lab and having a hellacious time doing it. It will all be too easy and very clean and very slick and, I think, very souless. The little imperfections are what make film a great art. When it loses that -"
He can't even finish the sentence.

Thoughts...?
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Vinyl giving way to CD deja vue
 
I respect him as a film maker. He is one of the greatest film makers of all time. So as much as I love digital, I can see why he feels that way. There is something very special about film. No question.

Times are changing. We all will hope for the best and just accept whatever happens.

Very interesting post though.
 
The art is in the artist, not the brush, or the canvas.

Graeme
 
Another quote from Spielberg about this:

Eventually I'll have to shoot [and edit] movies digitally, when there is no more film — and I'm willing to accept that. But I will be the last person to shoot and cut on film, y'know?
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he sounds like one of the dinosaurs from Jurassic Park with a comment like that.

I'm with Grahame. The art isn't in dipping film in chemicals. It's in the whole process that goes into making a story and telling it visually.

The script still needs to be written.
The actors still need to act.
The lighting is no less important.
The sound must be recorded and mixed properly.
The editing still needs to be done.
The music score needs to be written.

So no one gets to actually process film anymore. Whoop-dee-doo.
 
number6 said:
Vinal giving way to CD deja vue
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Vinal is better than CD for high dynamic range sounds such as orchestra and ensembles with lots and lots of sounds, at different and varying volumes. 16bits isn`t enough, apparently, to record the nuances that such blends of sounds make. Mp3 encoding has been shown to sometimes make punk and pop actually sound better than CD, as a side effect (in perceptual tests,with a decent bitrate). CDs are good for tempory data storage, if its not important :) There is no doubt truth to what he says (hence vinyl still made), but that would mean I would have to use 8mm (to stay in budget). More important I expect is the discipline using film encourages in a crew.
 
He may look back at the time he is forced to change as a rebirth. He may be getting complacent in using what is familiar, and may find that being challenged brings forth new creativity. He has made some of the most memorable films in the vaults, but his best work may be yet to come. Who knows?
 
ronx said:
Vinal is better than CD for high dynamic range sounds such as orchestra and ensembles with lots and lots of sounds, at different and varying volumes. 16bits isn`t enough, apparently, to record the nuances that such blends of sounds make. Mp3 encoding has been shown to sometimes make punk and pop actually sound better than CD, as a side effect (in perceptual tests,with a decent bitrate). CDs are good for tempory data storage, if its not important :) There is no doubt truth to what he says (hence vinyl still made), but that would mean I would have to use 8mm (to stay in budget). More important I expect is the discipline using film encourages in a crew.
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I know what you are saying, and I have no argument with it. But CDs won. Just as VHS won over Beta Max and similarly perhaps like Blu-Ray is winning over RED Ray...(maybe not!)
 
Technically with digital you can FAKE any film look.

Just make a good (digital) movie and then decide about a look.

Steven Spielberg likes to play "Antiquariat" film guy.

He thinks this should be always very IN.

But on the another side he also tries to be involved in a computer game design!?

All it's about an attitude.
 
If it's film that provides the "soul" of a motion picture, it has failed miserably in the great majority of motion pictures.

Mr. Speilberg's films certainly do not fall into the "soulless" category and I suspect we would be as moved by them no matter what his choice of image capturing media.

I'm immediately reminded of the film, "Amelie," which I believe used extensive electronic color grading and image manipulation to achieve a truly magical feat of art direction. I hope Mr. Speilberg would not judge such a film as soulless.

Screening the short clips of Soderberg's upcoming films in the Red booth at NAB, I found nothing lacking in the "soul" department.

I do understand the great affection many of us have for film; it's given us so much. It's a magnificent tool, but not the only way to drive a nail. One might well argue that the advantages of digital acquisition may well provide more "soul."

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo Ticheli
Director/Cinematographer
 
HardRockCA said:
A quote from an article on Mr. Speilberg...

"Sadly, in twenty years, movies will all go digital. There will be no photochemical steps - no film, no developing, no correcting the color in the lab and having a hellacious time doing it. It will all be too easy and very clean and very slick and, I think, very souless. The little imperfections are what make film a great art. When it loses that -"
He can't even finish the sentence.

Thoughts...?
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It is spelled Spielberg.
 
Mr. Speilberg vs. Mr. Spielberg could be a good start for a thinking about brand new trend in artistic movies :) .
 
Just a bit of pre-nostalgia on his part. I'm sure once he works on it, his opinion will change. He'll continue to create great art. But he has done some embracing of new technology... not necessarily all good. Look at what he did to E.T. I hate that new 3d soda scene.
 
Wether film or digital, every way of working will have it's limitations. It's the art to use and overcome these. Soul has nothing to do with the medium you work with. If we didn't go digital we might as well make films in Black and White, without sound and with beautiful orchestra's. In this way of working were also some nice limitations and our "ancestors" did a great job working with them.
 
He'll live. And, I'm sure his drive to create will cause him to get in and love the new processes. If not, he's got enough money to blow to do it the way he loves. There will always be someone willing to take his money.
 
Hey... I have a ProTools rig, but I learned recording on 2" 24-track tape.

And there is nothing like that nasty smell of fresh tape in the morning to get me going. Something about actually having "tape rolling" is magic to me. There is also a certain virtuosity you get with analog recording gear that just isn't necessary digitally... the beauty of a perfect vocal punch-in and punch-out... the feeling of tracking backwards effects into a mix... ah, the good ole' days. : )

Spielberg obviously likes to cut on film. I'm sure it's more of an emotional and tactile thing with him.

Lucas
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ASSIMILATE, inc.
LA, CA, USA
 
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