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Stage 2.5 - A straight question....

P.George

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So I'm not usually one to look a GiftHorse in the mouth (Yeah I'm lookin at you JIM) but here goes. -And I respectfully ask everyone in Stage 2 to not bury this question as has typically been the case.

This is a question really aimed at Jim or Jarred. And yeah... clearly you guys are crazy busy and doing some amazing things and this kind of stuff is the last thing on your minds but here goes:

Several times the possibility of a 2.5 option has been discussed and even acknowledged by Jim as being "under consideration." This would ideally be something that, while not in anyway discounting the commitments of those who jumped headlong into stage 2, would allow us devoted RED ONE owners that for whatever reason, financial or otherwise, are in stage 3 to keep our RED ONES when we upgrade to Epic, for a higher price tag of course. It would be very useful at the current time to know if this is still under consideration or if any decisions have been made for two reasons.

First, some stage 3 owners may have just recently upgraded to MX or may be considering the MX upgrade to maintain viable marketability on themselves and their red one's in their respective markets... a sizable investment. I think many forget that upgrading the MX in some places may have been market driven in order to keep the camera renting while waiting for Epic... its not always a personal choice by the owner; it in many cases is market driven... as this is in every respect a professional camera.

The second reason has to do with the release of the SSD reader coupled with the lack of media options currently. This is another expense all RED ONE owners are currently considering to maintain marketability.

And yes I'll be honest and echo Peter Matthes earlier post... Another factor in this is of course the fact that I'm pretty fond of my Red One at this point but that aside there are real and present financial concerns.

So Jim or Jarred... it'd just be cool to know which way the wind is blowing on this particular subject.
 
So P. George, are you suggesting, the Stage II package but for a cost of $28,000. I.E you keep RED ONE and get no credit for it? I, (a Stage III guy) wouldn't mind that if it was Stage 3.25. I wouldn't want that as Stage 2.5. But once production ramps up, I think all Stages will be filled by Aug 30. What you really want is to be able to move into Stage II. Maybe there could be a Stage 2.5 for Stage III's who want to move into Stage II. But that would be opening up Stage II which is closed. I think RED will have honored, "Obsolescence is Obsolete", once all the current Stages are complete. I think they will be a leaner meaner fighting machine once all these Stages are behind them, and as a business that is the way they should go. Why not buy a new RED ONE now, and trade your original in on an EPIC, (Stage III)? That would be similar to Stage II, but without the $8,500 rebate.
 
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You would do well to pick up the phone and speak to them quietly and privately.

When you ask for what could be considered a "Favor" in front of 3000 people, it becomes almost impossible for anyone to help you.

Jay
 
Really?

Really?

With all due respect Jay (and I do mean that) I am in no way asking for a favor and implying so is making quite a leap. Nor am I asking a new question. This has been asked by many others... I just felt that it really needed to asked concisely and to be put into the specific context of the RED market as it stands with the two sensors. I have been factual and respectful in all posts and to be totally honest, the condescension and outright dismissive behavior that seems to creep out on this forum when this question is asked by me or by any other member is not only disrespectful but also unproductive. I'm sorry but it just needs to be said.

I'm simply asking for more more current information with respect to conversations on record that existed on this forum since before I even joined. It wouldn't have even occurred to me to ask about this if it weren't for Jim's "under consideration" comment and previous posts on this forum.

~P
 
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George I'm not really asking for anything specific.... I'm really just asking for comment by RED...as I understood it what was specifically discussed by Jim and others in the past was the possibility of a financial incentive/option for stage 3 people to keep their camera and address the added expense of the MX conversion.... I'm sure I'm paraphrasing. Honestly I'm just wondering if something like this is still under consideration as stated earlier and if it is what form that might take... that's all.

~P
 
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