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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

SSDs not mounting in 10.7.1...

Ryan Schroeder said:
Sonnet has posted a new beta driver as of Dec 6th - time to test and post results. It offers "improved support for Thunderbolt," but I hope they fixed our issue as well...

Tempo SATA Pro Family BETA Driver (OS X- Intel Macs) v2.2.7b2
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I have actually just sent this link to a friend of mine while he's on a job. Just heard from him and he is now no longer able to mount any esata drives to his Lion Mac Pro with Sonnet esata card. So he's in the process of doing a round about way to get a Snow Leopard Partition going because I guess Lion doesn't want to just let him roll back to Snow.

Anyone else have any experience with the beta yet? Or any other solution?
 
Got the following from Sonnet on Friday. Haven't got the update they spoke of yet, but will post when I do.

Beta 2 doesn't address the issue. The engineers are still looking into this. One of them thinks it's the SATA driver, the other thinks it's something about FAT32 formatting in Lion. The latter is the one who wrote the E4P driver so who knows who will win the argument.

I've been told there should be an update by the end of the day so if that happens, you'll be one of the first people I email.
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I am having the same issues with a 12-Core I purchased on Friday with my E4P. I just called Sonnet Tech Support and the "tech" did not know about the beta released on Dec 6th on their site exists... He also does not know of anything in the works to correct it either.. So, I can not download via esata on my tower...
 
Ryan Schroeder said:
Got the following from Sonnet on Friday. Haven't got the update they spoke of yet, but will post when I do.

Beta 2 doesn't address the issue. The engineers are still looking into this. One of them thinks it's the SATA driver, the other thinks it's something about FAT32 formatting in Lion. The latter is the one who wrote the E4P driver so who knows who will win the argument.

I've been told there should be an update by the end of the day so if that happens, you'll be one of the first people I email.
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LOL... Wow. That is just stupid. So the dude who wrote the driver can't admit that there's a problem to fix? It has *NOTHING* to do with FAT32 formatting in Lion. It doesn't matter if the storage volume is formatted, unformatted, unpartitioned, formatted as NTFS, ZFS, HPFS, etc.. It is a driver issue with something Apple changed in Lion at the kernel level regarding their SATA interface layer.

So, now I have to wonder, just what have the driver guys at Sonnet been doing for the past year? Apple delivered Lion to ADC member developers 11 months ago... *FOR THIS PURPOSE -- TO FUCKING TEST AND FIX THINGS BEFORE THEY RELEASE IT TO THE MASSES*

I know I'm being an ass, but I don't think I'm out of line here. The only Sonnet card I currently own is an E4P and it was pulled some while back in exchange for an ATTO 6G card... But I have a few clients suffering with these issues right now and I'm steering them to other vendors for solutions.

Jeebus, you can't buy a new Mac without Lion installed. Lion has been out for months now and software is starting to show up that works better on Lion than on Snow Leopard. The conventional wisdom of holding off of that OS update to make sure all your hardware is supported only applies for so long. After a month or three, it becomes more an issue of "well, that hardware has shit drivers, I'm gonna have to buy something else".
 
A good place to start is with the ATTO H680 model, usually under $350USD and a HighPoint miniSAS to eSATA fan-out cable. NewEgg and other vendors have them. Johnny, I sent you a PM, just in case you haven't seen it yet.

If you're a bit tight on the budget and don't need 4 or more eSATA ports at the same time (the H680 card can do 8 x 6Gbps channels simultaneously), the CalDigit 6GU3 card is about $135 and gives you two 6Gbps eSATA-III along with two USB3.0 ports.
 
Why I still have my Sonnet card is a mystery.....Thanks Jeff....
Seems this card takes the SAME physical position and space in my LAST PCIE slot AND now allows me to run an LTO drive as well as my (4) 5 bay mac guru hot swap drives. Blessed be the water that turn to wine.
Thanks again for this useful information Jeff....i'm getting mine ordered now....Jeff, for fun, what other types of devices come to mind that you can run off this type of slot? I've never seen an SAS slot....Or, what are you running with yours? since that might spark an idea.
 
Jeff: here are some questions/concerns i have after talking to Rick at MacGurus---this is who i get my 5 bay enclosures from. I just want to cover some things that i am totally in the dark about and thank you for your time and concern:


My Current Setup:
Sonnet E4P card with four SATA outs to four 5 bay hot swappable enclosures (each with a port multiplier) for a total of 20 online drives.

*I actually am changing my card for the Silicone Imaging card and ordered that last week since they seem to have better performance than Sonnetj
**It is also my understanding that if I NEED the port multiplier card to run from one SATA out of the PCIE board to one connection on my enclosure and the port multiplier then splits that out to 5 drives. If i do not have the port multiplier, then i would not be able to run to 5 drives from one SATA port off of the PCIE card.

NOW: with SAS: there are two outgoing ports. One could be a direct connection to an LTO 5 and the other can be a 4 way splitter to SATA to go to FOUR other SATA devices. BUT, the question or concern is that now the SAS card does not recognize the port multiplier card on my enclosures and i then loose that capability to run 5 drives in my enclosure off of one SATA out from the SAS card since as i understand it the SAS card does not somehow recognize or allow for the port multiplier cards on my enclosures.

....That's it in a nut-shell. Keep in mind i know very little of what i just wrote, but those are merely my concerns. Another is HighPoint seems to have no tech support---or never answer....so this could be a problem.

I'd appreciate your comments and if i am wrong or there is a way to actually do this please do tell. Since for me the main aim here is to be able to run an LTO drive....OR--i could look into seeing if it's possible to get a SATA LTO if that's even possible?

Thanks Jeff
 
C'mon Sonnet... make my day! You're the only card that'll get north of 150MB/s on a laptop. Git 'r dun! (the driver, that is)
 
Seems the most reliable card is the Silicone Imaging for Tower. On Jeff's recomendation i began looking into SAS cards that also support ESATA and port multipliers (if you run say a 5 bay hard drive via one Esata connection via Port Multiplier).....I'm soon to be testing a card from ARECA...the 1320-8x card - ARECA does support port multiplier technology....the ATTO card is nice, but they do not support port multiplier technology...So with SAS, lots of options....
 
Heard back from Sonnet:

We're working with Apple on this one since it's clear they changed something in 10.7.x that is causing issues with our driver. One of my engineers came up with this workaround but it's not for everybody.
The link is to a PDF with instructions for how to manually mount a FAT volume through SonnetSATA driver attached. I was able to copy files to and from the FAT volume when mounted, but I couldn't run a disk test on the volume.

http://db.tt/0DrZKAbB
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