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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Spike Black... First Prototype photos.

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Cabin height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m)..... I dont fit there :)
 
My wish, Canon EF lenses support

My wish, Canon EF lenses support

birgerEngineer said:
We are considering offering a follow focus unit for CanonEF, NikonF and FourThirds lenses for this camera and accessible screws would make this an upgrade that could be performed in the field. An easy to remove lens mount would allow us and other third parties to provide a wder range of lens options to your shooters/owners.
Erik.
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Eric, support for Canon EF lenses would be a dream for me. Having invested in a bunch of Canon primes - 24 1.4L, 50 1.4, 85 1.2L, 135 2.0L and a couple of 200 1.8L, this would be my ideal personal setup and will just rent lenses as needed. Yeah, I'm also willing to drag my SLR to change lens settings. I drag it now anyway.
 
groveling time - i have been a loudmouth 'bout the first designs. i found 'em a bit tacky..like the girls smoking a cigar - it's a chick thing i guess. but i just saw the new renderings and i like the less chunky, more toned down design alot better. and i'm hugely impressed by the speed your team achieved your milestones. so i hope you accept my appologies.
 
With some drinks I will fit there for sure :D
 
Canon, the ball is in your court...

Canon, the ball is in your court...

Ronnie Silos said:
Eric, support for Canon EF lenses would be a dream for me. Having invested in a bunch of Canon primes - 24 1.4L, 50 1.4, 85 1.2L, 135 2.0L and a couple of 200 1.8L, this would be my ideal personal setup and will just rent lenses as needed. Yeah, I'm also willing to drag my SLR to change lens settings. I drag it now anyway.
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Dragging your SLR to change lens settings? I have heard of this but don't know the procedure. Please tell, please tell...

If only Canon would sell a rig to allow use of their EF lenses without having to be on an EOS body. I suppose they would be afraid of hurting sales of the EOS bodies but they would sell more glass and they would make plenty of money doing that. It would also sell lenses into the motion imaging market for RedRock and other 35 adapters for video and obviously RedOnes.
 
Blair S. Paulsen said:
Dragging your SLR to change lens settings? I have heard of this but don't know the procedure. Please tell, please tell...
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So the story goes... Foveon (the manufacturer of the sensor in the Sigma SLR camera) sold its development kit with a Canon EF lens mount on it. They supplied a cheap film camera body with that kit for setting the iris on the lens. The instructions were to mount the lens, take a bulb exposure with aperture setting that you want, and remove the battery from the camera to keep the iris at that setting.

The other way that I have been told works is to use a camera with an aperture preview button, and while pushing down that preview button quickly remove the lens, and pray that iris doesn't reset. Repeat procedure until successful.

Blair S. Paulsen said:
If only Canon would sell a rig to allow use of their EF lenses without having to be on an EOS body. I suppose they would be afraid of hurting sales of the EOS bodies but they would sell more glass and they would make plenty of money doing that. It would also sell lenses into the motion imaging market for RedRock and other 35 adapters for video and obviously RedOnes.
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My company, Birger Engineering, does sell such a device for Canon EF lenses. We have Sigma SA, FourThirds, and Nikon F (D or G for iris, AF-S for focus) devices in the works. We are talking to a number of people in the community to understand how to best purpose the device for this market, particularly the RED camera.

The current configuration is as a replaceable lens mount, where an external device, such as a PDA, or computer can act as the source/sink of the data. Many of our industrial customers have integrated this in such a way that the sensor is involved in the control loop, and the camera is the source/sink for the data.

We have set an internal deadline of NAB2007 for an announcement, but just as soon as we have a concrete plan we will let everyone know.

Our controller is already used by at least one customer on a P+S Technik Pro35. But given the high cost of this device, it is primarily available through rental houses, and it has not proven to be a big market. The RedRock on the other hand is targetted at such a cost conscious user that we have yet to see anything more than fleeting interest.

RED changes things in a big way, or so we think. Particularly interesting is the way it will enable owner/operators, and our belief that owner operators are going to want to own affordable lenses as well. With a "smart" lens mount we can provide the data that would be needed in post to remove artifacts of lens breathing, for example. And with the short focus throw of these lenses, using the internal motors, rather than an external gear and knob, should provide a very good quality of result for focus pulling.

It is not so much an if, as it is a how / what / when, question right now.


Regards,
Erik.
 
birgerEngineer said:
And with the short focus throw of these lenses, using the internal motors, rather than an external gear and knob, should provide a very good quality of result for focus pulling.
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Given that the newest Nikon lenses like the 12-24mm made don't have aperture rings a device like that would be great. If you could add wireless focus and aperture control you'd really have something amazing. Actually - a thin cabled control available in different lengths would work almost as well and probably be easier to develop.

Yeah... I think you're really onto something here as long as you don't charge $5k for it.
 
birgerEngineer said:
RED changes things in a big way, or so we think. Particularly interesting is the way it will enable owner/operators, and our belief that owner operators are going to want to own affordable lenses as well. With a "smart" lens mount we can provide the data that would be needed in post to remove artifacts of lens breathing, for example. And with the short focus throw of these lenses, using the internal motors, rather than an external gear and knob, should provide a very good quality of result for focus pulling.
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This sounds excellent. It also open up the possibility of using APS_C format lenses with the RedOne, which should (in theory) be more appropriate to the 4K format. In particular I love the idea of being able to use the Canon 10-22mm lens. Now thats a nice wide lens.

M
 
Martin said:
... In particular I love the idea of being able to use the Canon 10-22mm lens ...
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Canon 10-22mm -> YES PLEASE :) :) :)

can birgerEngineer keep us posted on progress / thinking ...
 
Martin said:
This sounds excellent. It also open up the possibility of using APS_C format lenses with the RedOne, which should (in theory) be more appropriate to the 4K format. In particular I love the idea of being able to use the Canon 10-22mm lens. Now thats a nice wide lens.

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On Nikon DX lenses you can shoot with them wide open all the time on RED by using a folded piece of paper keeping the aperture open. For the time being this can be useful until birgerEngineer's company releases his product.
 
Thanks for the awesome shots JarRed.

As for the Canon EF mount... I won't say a thing till someone gets it done, preordered the 300mm Red lens to be able to shoot right out of the box but I am not going to let go of my L series glass for some nikon (bleh)

Well, I may be a little late in on the game but being a Juliet owner since day one I can say they've saved my eyes in many a skiing accident so I am confident to have my life depend on a RedOne.

(seems to me the thread has strayed a bit :p )
 
As for Spike's texture and colour I must admit I like it a lot :)
But won't it get too hot under the sun? (think of the reasoning behind Canon L series ceramic lenses)
So I think a material like the Oakley X Metal would be more hard to wear and up to the task.
But I really really like Spike as it is, Badass Black (yeah, that's a new shade of black reserved for the coolest hardware out there)
 
You stupid assholes(this referes to a RED team), now I fell in love with this RED ONE.
I would like to sleep with it(but yust holding it tight).
 
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