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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

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digitalfx said:
You guys had you chance to order the PPP...shame on you for not doing it.
Jim asked us to place our orders so he could gauge production. I ordered the PPP and placed a deposit...but it appears the majority of you who are complaining failed to send Jim an order as he requested, so he saw little demand.
As long as we can order the parts though, its really no big deal.
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I think what digitalfx is saying is probably right. I too fall into that category of not pre-ordering the PPP. But I am really interested in building my own. I wasn't aware that might have been possible.

Method
 
count me as one of the few people who is really happy with this decision.

the Basic seemed too little, and the Premium seemed a bit too much. for my 2-camera order, i was going to order one of each and then mix n match. i'll probably be able to save a bit of money by beefing up the basic with the add-ons that i'll actually use the most. gets back to the total customization model.

the Premium pack did seem nice, though, i can see why users might be bummed to see it pulled from the list of available options.
 
planet e said:
the Premium pack did seem nice, though, i can see why users might be bummed to see it pulled from the list of available options.
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I don't see a big deal. All the parts will be available. No one knew for sure, 100%, which parts were included anyway, or at least I don't think we knew. Even with the premium pack, I was under the impression that many may still need to buy an extra grip handle or two or a few other complimentary pieces. There's a good bet that with the Premium pack, a lot of us would have ended up with pieces we don't use.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
No one knew for sure, 100%, which parts were
included anyway, or at least I don't think we knew.
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Basic Production Package +
RED RAIL MOUNT (3)
RED ROD SHORT (1)
RED ROD LONG (4)
RED RAIL HANDLE BRACKET
RED GRIP HANDLE (1)
RED SIDE HANDLE (4)
RED 15mm ROD ADAPTOR (Studio)
RED 15mm ROD ADAPTOR (Lightweight)


According to a post in this thread.
 
digitalfx said:
Jim asked us to place our orders so he could gauge production. I ordered the PPP and placed a deposit...but it appears the majority of you who are complaining failed to send Jim an order as he requested, so he saw little demand.
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I am with the respect for being honest and appreciate the openness to this board and community. Outstanding, yes. - So far, so good.

But what you say has been declined a couple of times as far as I remember, yes, there was a request, but at the same time, many will have experienced this after mailing the RED staff, it was clearly stated: we will contact everybody first and reservationists (thats what its here about, not the fact, that prices change ? because sometimes they just do), for that everybody is able to place an order appropriate of their needs.

Was very nice and at the same time couldn't have been more unclear IMHO.

Nonetheless, I am still with trust here and open:
If its about 'Take the small one and upgrade' (more or less what Jim said..) I'm with it and there with trust. It will come a good way.

All else has, not ?
 
augenmensch aka therock said:
I am with the respect for being honest and appreciate the openness to this board and community. Outstanding, yes. - So far, so good.

But what you say has been declined a couple of times as far as I remember, yes, there was a request, but at the same time, many will have experienced this after mailing the RED staff, it was clearly stated: we will contact everybody first and reservationists (thats what its here about, not the fact, that prices change ? because sometimes they just do), for that everybody is able to place an order appropriate of their needs.

Was very nice and at the same time couldn't have been more unclear IMHO.

Nonetheless, I am still with trust here and open:
If its about 'Take the small one and upgrade' (more or less what Jim said..) I'm with it and there with trust. It will come a good way.

All else has, not ?
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Not really sure what you are saying but Red stated on numerous occasions that they wanted us to place our orders for accessories and lenses asap so that they could gauge demand for the purpose of production.

For me it was pretty clear, which is why I went on-line and ordered all my accessories and lenses.
 
augenmensch aka therock said:
I am with the respect for being honest and appreciate the openness to this board and community. Outstanding, yes. - So far, so good.

But what you say has been declined a couple of times as far as I remember, yes, there was a request, but at the same time, many will have experienced this after mailing the RED staff, it was clearly stated: we will contact everybody first and reservationists (thats what its here about, not the fact, that prices change ? because sometimes they just do), for that everybody is able to place an order appropriate of their needs.

Was very nice and at the same time couldn't have been more unclear IMHO.

Nonetheless, I am still with trust here and open:
If its about 'Take the small one and upgrade' (more or less what Jim said..) I'm with it and there with trust. It will come a good way.

All else has, not ?
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No, you are quite wrong, there was a request made to place orders ahead of shipping time to guage order amounts, I remember it very clearly. If the request had not been made I wouldn't have placed an accessory order until shipping time.
 
garageman said:
No, you are quite wrong, there was a request made to place orders ahead of shipping time to guage order amounts, I remember it very clearly. If the request had not been made I wouldn't have placed an accessory order until shipping time.
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You are correct in that there was a request made, but I don't think there was an email with a formal request. I placed my accessories pre-order on April 17, which was probably the day after the request was made.
 
Jack Wester said:
Basic Production Package +
RED RAIL MOUNT (3)
RED ROD SHORT (1)
RED ROD LONG (4)
RED RAIL HANDLE BRACKET
RED GRIP HANDLE (1)
RED SIDE HANDLE (4)
RED 15mm ROD ADAPTOR (Studio)
RED 15mm ROD ADAPTOR (Lightweight)


According to a post in this thread.
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OK, I guess that info is also on the RED web site, but I was assuming that there would be some more to it or some changes since we've seen pictures of things like the t-handle and other goodies not listed there.
 
I wish there was an a la carte pricelist. I think there used to be. I'm sure it'll be posted soon. But I guess the guys at Red are busy today...
 
Ppp

Ppp

Jim,

For the sake of convenience, it would be great if you gave us the option of ordering the PPP and just raised the price.

I would gladly pay it. Anyone who wouldn't is an ungrateful chump.

-Thor
 
Now, where's that list I've been keeping with the names of those who called RED "Vaporware" and "Hogwash" just a few months ago...oh here it is...hahaha
 
Check out my post here : http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4130&page=2

It includes a copy and link to Kelly's April 23rd post about ordering accessories, and I repeat here my reccomendation for those bummed out about the PPP being discontinued.

The Red premium production pack is still listed on red.com, run there and put your order in and your deposit down, there's no better way to let Jim and team know that there is a demand for it. It's only a $275 deposit. Go ! Now !

Cheers,
Damien

PS I'll just add that personnaly I've always wanted, and stated many times, I just want the basic prod pkg with an extra grip and the lightweight 15mm rod adaptor. If I had a little more liberty fund wise, I would get the ppp though, but for my needs, my priorities are elsewhere (mattebox, extra batteries, ND filters, etc.)
 
Just my .02
I am one of those who reserved body only to see what changes are coming, so no complaints here. We puts down our money, we takes our chances.
I've been around long enough to know we are being offered a great deal, but costs do start mounting.
I was planning on the Basic, then adding on as need and money allow.

With REDs modular design there is every reason to expect
a good 3rd party accessory market to develope.

Plus there is no reason one couldn't get some billet Aluminum Alloy and have it milled for special tasks.
 
I'm way down the line but would have definitely ordered the PPP. Didn't see any request for this unfortunately. The PPP is a must for us; guess we'll have to see how we can rig a la carte.
 
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