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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

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David Stewart

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Have you guys looked at the new 120+ Hz TV's. My friend bought a nice 55" one and it looked great until we watched a movie in HD. I guess you're supposed to lower it back down to 60Hz for movies, but he said that it was kind of a pain to change. It was very sharp. Too sharp. It looked like...video! I mean bring out the news reporter type video. I found it almost distracting. Everything looked deliberate. I didn't like it. I guess it's good for sports. Digital audio can get that way too. Harsh and tiring on the ears. Are we getting too perfect? Will we go back to records in a video kind of way? My wife and I watched the Black Swan the other night. She remarked about the grainy film. I said they probably added the grain for effect. Huh?
 
it's not that it was too sharp, only that you noticed the sharpness of the time of the thing too much. there would be like 5 updates of the exact same frame. it looks terrible. bad news. your friend didn't know how to change it. that's why he didn't, and said that. and remind me, what does this have to do with your wife's critical review?
 
Mine looked terrible until I turned off the smooth-motion setting, which was on by default. Now it looks fine.
 
I didn't even know it was a feature. But everything was looking horrible. I thought it was my DVD player until I found the setting and was like "Ohhhh.. that's definitely the culprit" and it was!

One correction though. It doesn't change from 120hz to 60hz. It still is 120hz, it's just not being retimed from 24p to 120p. It's 24p @ 120hz.
 
This is, without a doubt, the DUMBEST "engineer-designed" feature on a consumer device.
 
Well I have the 55" Samsung 9000 and it refreshes up to 240Hz, it is simply put the best Screen I ever used,
and trust me when I tell you we have used and tested every single one available for our 3D Viewing.

This one: http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55C9000ZFXZA

You can change and customized so many aspect of this TV for what ever medium you are in need of, off course I will not
watch a 2D Movie with the same settings I use for 3D Blue ray, and or Documentaries, to each its own, form Neutral to Movie,
that seems to create a softening Vail to Dynamic for 3D which arranges for better Depth perception and also the colors
and lighting to compliment the small loss of light with Active Polarized 3D eye-ware.

So technology is here to give us options, thing is we need to learn how to use it ;)
 
i absolutely hate these new tvs with their shittttttttty video look..

but i dont know what im more pissed at..

the fact that these tv's look so terrible. or the fact that the MAJORITY of people i talk too.. dont notice a single difference..
it boggles my mind..

ill say "this just looks sooo video"
and people say " i dont notice anything different"
and then I punch my self in the face and seriously think about quitting life
 
Zakaree,

this TV's you hate so much, have different settings, set it to Movie, and it will not look so much like Video, but it is still a TV,
not a Projector so off course will held much more clarity and give a higher Dynamic image.

Progress is progress, and even so it is not always good, it is progress, you can always not buy a new TV ;)
 
paulherrin said:
it's not that it was too sharp, only that you noticed the sharpness of the time of the thing too much. there would be like 5 updates of the exact same frame. it looks terrible. bad news. your friend didn't know how to change it. that's why he didn't, and said that. and remind me, what does this have to do with your wife's critical review?
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She just noticed that the movie looked grainy and it was. I thought it was funny that the movie was actually lowered in quality for effect while everything seems to be going toward sharper, high resolution.
 
120hz would't make 24fps motion look like "video"... It's the horrible frame interpolation these TVs have that turn 24fps into 60fps.

Actually, in film projectors you're watching the 24fps at 120hz, because light flashes 5 times each frame.

PS: Most frame interpolation processes can be turned off in the TV menus.
 
My friend Zach, who is a complete layman, once remarked that he thought HDTVs "make acting look bad". He thought it had something to do with the clearer picture. I didn't know what he was talking about. Then I found out about this feature.

I think everyone notices it, they just convince themselves that it looks better.

The only thing that pisses me off more is when widescreen TVs stretch a 4:3 signal to fit across the whole screen.
 
My 12-year old daughter was at a friend's house who had a 120hz TV and came home saying "I saw a version of Titanic that wasn't graded!"

Poor girl growing up in a tech house! :smilielol5:
 
David Stewart said:
She just noticed that the movie looked grainy and it was. I thought it was funny that the movie was actually lowered in quality for effect while everything seems to be going toward sharper, high resolution.
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By lowering in quality, are you referring to the fact it was shot in 16mm film? That's of course where the grain is coming from.
 
F$#k em!

In Australia we have PAL, movies look great when aired on TV. I almost cant stand watching NTSC television. Let alone bloody 120HZ!
 
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