Show us your Red One Studio Mode vs. Handheld Mode

[Gregor Hagey]

Hi,

I just wanted to see how everyone has been configuring their Red One for studio mode and handheld mode. I will post what I've developed over the past 10 months of working with Red 98/98X. Please post pictures.

 

[Gregor Hagey]

98X Studio Mode

98X Studio Mode

The attached pictures show the studio mode I was using on Shark City, the last feature I shot. It was a very modestly budgeted production which was reflected in our modest camera package. The 1st AC was Chris Mierzwinski, the 2nd AC was Spencer Ennis and the DIT was Morning Glory. The weight of the camera in studio mode is 40lbs which is at the top end of the O'Connor 1030HDs' capabilities, but it still worked fine.

Here's what's in the 1st photo:

5x5 Petroff Mattebox (slightly modified)
Petroff mini Follow Focus
19mm 12" Carbon X Rods (top and bottom)
Zeiss Super Speed 18mm
Red Bottom Plate with Cheese Plate
Red Top Handle with Extension
LCD on 9" Red Arm
EVF on Manfrotto Arm 196B-2 (slightly modified)
Dual Red Batteries on ProX
Red-Drive
Red Cradle

I just want to say how much I love the Carbon X rods. I love the Carbon X rods. I also love 19mm rods now that I've used them. Now, whenever I have to use 15mm rods, I realize what a compromise that size is because nothing ever slips on 19mm rods. The Manfrotto Arm has turned out to be a very efficient and flexible tool for placing the EVF where I need it and keeping the EVF solidly in place. The modification I made was to remove one of the arms and add washers to the mounting bracket.

The 2nd photo shows the right side with a Deneke for keeping timecode lock and a Sennheiser receiver on a 5" Red Arm sending a mono mix down to the camera from the Sound Recordist.

The last picture shows the Red on a PeeWee using Film Tools' 100mm ball to Mitchell adaptor.

 

[Gregor Hagey]

98X Handheld Mode

98X Handheld Mode

Attached are pictures of the handheld mode I was using on Shark City. You'll notice that the batteries and cradle have been removed and we're shooting to CF card. This drops the camera's weight down to 30lbs, but shifts the centre of gravity to under the lens. I've added a universal mount under the lens throat with a piece of industrial Velcro that holds a high density piece of foam in place (it's actually a knee pad cut to fit on my shoulder). The Red Handles have been modified to use only the rosette to adjust the angle and I replaced the rubber grips with BMX bike grips because its guard prevents my hands from slipping up to the rosettes. The EVF is still held in place by the Manfrotto Arm. I'm very happy with the strength of this Arm. The Dual Batteries with the ProX are on the Red Belt Clip inside what some might call a purse from MEC, but I like to think of as a European Carryall. It weighs 6.5 lbs and is very comfortable for either the Operator to wear or the AC.

It takes about 2 minutes to switch to handheld mode from studio mode, because the camera has to be rebooted. If ever I'm desperate to shoot immediately I'll only readjust the EVF and throw the camera on my shoulder and use the rods to hold on to, but it's extremely rare that there isn't the time to properly convert to handheld.

 

[Gregor Hagey]

98X Handheld Mode continued

98X Handheld Mode continued

Finally, this is a picture of the extra clearance for shooting in this Handheld configuration. My shoulder is actually touching the wall as I slide around the perimeter of the action. Because of the shortened Red I have no danger of hitting the wall. I'm very happy with having little of the camera protrude out the back. The Red One is slightly front heavy in this configuration though, but still quite comfortable. The camera is not top heavy at all with the COG being low enough to keep the camera very stable on my shoulder. There is no tendency for the camera to roll.

 

[Joe D'Arcy]

Thanks for your posts, they are very helpful as I am now getting closer to the purchase of my own Red configuration. I look forward to posts from others with their package and configuration.

 

[P Andersson]

great idea for a thread, very informative, thanks

 

[Shawn Booth]

iPhone pic - HH:

iPhone pic - Studio:

 

[Gregor Hagey]

Where do you get the Red Eye-Cup Chamois?

 

[Mike Prevette]

http://www.filmtools.com/eychamsmal.html

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Attached are pictures of the handheld mode I was using on Shark City. You'll notice that the batteries and cradle have been removed and we're shooting to CF card. This drops the camera's weight down to 30lbs, but shifts the centre of gravity to under the lens. I've added a universal mount under the lens throat with a piece of industrial Velcro that holds a high density piece of foam in place (it's actually a knee pad cut to fit on my shoulder). The Red Handles have been modified to use only the rosette to adjust the angle and I replaced the rubber grips with BMX bike grips because its guard prevents my hands from slipping up to the rosettes. The EVF is still held in place by the Manfrotto Arm. I'm very happy with the strength of this Arm. The Dual Batteries with the ProX are on the Red Belt Clip inside what some might call a purse from MEC, but I like to think of as a European Carryall. It weighs 6.5 lbs and is very comfortable for either the Operator to wear or the AC.

It takes about 2 minutes to switch to handheld mode from studio mode, because the camera has to be rebooted. If ever I'm desperate to shoot immediately I'll only readjust the EVF and throw the camera on my shoulder and use the rods to hold on to, but it's extremely rare that there isn't the time to properly convert to handheld.

For a handheld shooting is very good idea to put RED drive and battery in a rucksack/backpack type.

 

[hanselblat]

I'm not talking from experience because I don't have my red yet, but I was thinking of one of those vests with lots of pockets in the front; wouldn't it be safer to have batteries and disks in the front, also because there's less chance of trouble with the cables?

 

[Fredrik Callinggard]

I'm not talking from experience because I don't have my red yet, but I was thinking of one of those vests with lots of pockets in the front; wouldn't it be safer to have batteries and disks in the front, also because there's less chance of trouble with the cables?

That's where you're arm and especially elbows are moving around. For weight issues it's easier to carry it on the back, but the best thing is to have your AC doing it :tongue:

 

[hanselblat]

Is that practical with the cables? suppose he trips over or gets distracted by someonce he fancies ; if the elbows get in the way, maybe a belt with pockets?

 

[Shawn Booth]

Where do you get the Red Eye-Cup Chamois?

FILMTOOLS for all expendables, support, toys, etc.

BUT I want to say this. The red chamios look great, but I don't like them a whole lot. Fleece - holds your sweat on the surface, doesn't feel the greatest either.
The standard flesh colored ones made of leather work best.

 

[Gregor Hagey]

shoulder bag for handheld

shoulder bag for handheld

Is that practical with the cables? suppose he trips over or gets distracted by someonce he fancies ; if the elbows get in the way, maybe a belt with pockets?

The shoulder bag only has the Red Belt Clip in it, which has a very long power cable. The length of the Red Belt Clip's power cable is long enough to allow you to put the camera on the floor first and then remove the shoulder bag. In reality both usually get handed to the 1st AC or camera grip. I wouldn't put the Red-Drive in the shoulder-bag because the cable is far too short for it and you would be limited in your movement. Instead I always use the CF card in this mode. This is just a variation of wearing a battery belt for handheld, which is quite common when shooting film.

Still curious to see how other people are configuring their Red.

 

[ericyoung]

...EVF on Manfrotto Arm 196B-2 (slightly modified)
...

Great posts!

Can you elaborate on how you modified the Manfrotto Arm 196B-2 for the EVF?

Did you consider the heavier duty Manfrotto Arm 396B-2 with the double arm sections?

Thanks.
Eric

 

[Shawn Nelson]

Got it back from rental today and put the new RR mattebox on

 

[Raphael Varandas]

I'm not talking from experience because I don't have my red yet, but I was thinking of one of those vests with lots of pockets in the front; wouldn't it be safer to have batteries and disks in the front, also because there's less chance of trouble with the cables?

Agree 100%... good point.
What you think guys?
Any experienced cable problem ?

 

[Gregor Hagey]

Great posts!

Can you elaborate on how you modified the Manfrotto Arm 196B-2 for the EVF?

Did you consider the heavier duty Manfrotto Arm 396B-2 with the double arm sections?

Thanks.
Eric

I modified the 196-B by removing one of it's arms. I tried it with 2 for a while, but it was over-kill. I only need the range that 1 arm gives me.

I didn't consider the 396-B mostly because it wasn't at the store I went to, but I don't know if the added bulk of 2 arms is worth the extra rigidity. If you have one already I'm sure it's worthwhile to try out.

 

[Gregor Hagey]

Got it back from rental today and put the new RR mattebox on

Shawn,

How much does your Red weigh in that picture? How does the Manfrotto handle it? Does the RR Mattebox bracket get in the way of seeing the lens' focus marks? Do you find the Handgrips slip on the rods? BTW I like the lighting in Red27_Studio.