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Shoulder Rig for Scarlet with Redvolts and Side Handle

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Rob Sholty

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Hey guys,

I'm looking at picking up a shoulder rig for my Scarlet and was wondering on some recommendations . I don't have a back battery plate since I am powering off of Redvolts and a Side Handle. I have never had any issues with power , I just want a rig thats simple and easy to use.

I have been checking out the Wooden Camera Premium Rig and it looks like it might work for me. Has anyone ever used this setup before? Since I don't have a back battery to counter balance would this rig still suffice. I'm open to ideas. The Red Rock rig I have now is not cutting it. Its so front heavy and puts all the weight onto your arms. Anyways thanks again to any suggestions. Thank you everyone.
 
Andrew Gentle said:
Check out Gini Rigs if you're on a budget. I'm using a super simple one with REDVOLTs and it cost about $400 which I've been happy with. You may have the same front-heavy issues with some of them, though.

-Andrew
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Andrew, I have a Zacuto rig that I've used for a DSLR but interested in switching over to Gini. Are the 15mm rods female? I'm looking at the K2 model and already have an AB plate w/ 15mm rod support, so I'm wondering if I can just screw in some 6" 15mm rods and use the battery as a counter weight
 
Rob Sholty said:
Hey guys,

I'm looking at picking up a shoulder rig for my Scarlet and was wondering on some recommendations . I don't have a back battery plate since I am powering off of Redvolts and a Side Handle. I have never had any issues with power , I just want a rig thats simple and easy to use.

I have been checking out the x Premium Rig and it looks like it might work for me. Has anyone ever used this setup before? Since I don't have a back battery to counter balance would this rig still suffice. I'm open to ideas. The Red Rock rig I have now is not cutting it. Its so front heavy and puts all the weight onto your arms. Anyways thanks again to any suggestions. Thank you everyone.

You can look to this:
[h=3] New Movcam Epic gear[/h]
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The WC premium rig is the best I've used hands down. Better than the clutch, better than any of the lower priced ones. It works, it's simple, it's strong, easy to adjust and comfortable. Can't ask for more than that.
 
What is it with shoulder rigs ?

Maybe I'm old school but all you need for 15mm rods is some handles that attach to the rods (like the redone handles with adapter) & a small beanie bag that can rest on the shoulder or pad that attaches docks to tripod/dovetail plate underneath the camera.

For ideas check out Bobs Gundus solution , ( I think in Scarlet Rig thread )

IMO unless you are running around all day handheld then anything the other side of $500 is overkill & if you are then maybe should be looking at something like "easyrig" & not some shoulder rig solution.
 
LIke the look and feel of the Gini rig for the Red Scarlet/Epic. I only have one concern with it (bearing in mind I haven't yet tested the rig): the counter-weight of 500g seems to be a bit too light, when the camera isn't sitting right above your shoulder. One you attach your zoom lens (24-70mm Canon weights 500g on its own), together with the touch screen monitor, I am pretty sure the camera will become a bit front heavy.
 
I have been working with the Gini beast rig on my scarlet and its a great rig as it comes with some fantastic accessories such as cage, follow focus, bottom & top rails, top handle, back weight, rosette handles BUT it is still front heavy. The age old trick of sticking a camera battery to the included weights to semi balance the setup still applies. I think Bob Gundu's trick of using the quad volt battery module as the shoulder mount with a pad underneath might be the best solution for those on a budget.

Craig Lees
Scarlet X
UK
 
Does anyone know if the cage from the Gini Rig K-2 Epic/Scarlet shoulder rig is the same as the Apple Cage?

I'm trying to figure out if they're are the same, or if the cage from the K-2 slider has a permanently attached rod attachment on the front. If it's detachable then i'm ordering.
 
for long shoots ive been using the zacuto recoil V1 along with a wooden camera easy riser and top plate and handle. its been working wonderfully. best part is that its modular enough that i can take off the bootom portion and handles easily and just throw them on my tripod if need be.
 
Arthur Woo said:
Andrew, I have a Zacuto rig that I've used for a DSLR but interested in switching over to Gini. Are the 15mm rods female? I'm looking at the K2 model and already have an AB plate w/ 15mm rod support, so I'm wondering if I can just screw in some 6" 15mm rods and use the battery as a counter weight
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I'm pretty sure the 15mm rods which came with mine (K7 model) were female but I can check on that for sure.

The part I disliked about the rig was that the shoulder pad itself came with an adhesive backing for attachment to the shoulder pad cradle. It looked like the pad would be larger than the cradle and the exposed part would get dirty if I peeled the backing off so instead, I bought a length of wide, black elastic and wrapped around both to attach it. Pretty minor complaint, though, and easily fixed.
 
Mike Garrick said:
No scam build quality is excellent so is there price.
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Yes, it was ironic. I'm now hesitating between the different setup offer. Especially those ones :
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Or
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Wich ones is best, in your opinion ?
 
http://ginirigs.com/red-beast/

I have the Red beast (before they made the Z-Scarlet rig). Anyway, well made, if not always well thought out.

Here are the pluses:

1. cheap, I only paid around 700 bucks for it.
2. well made. the parts all fit together nicely, well machined.
3. quick shipping, I got it in two days from Korea to California (this was quicker that I typically get it from Amazon on the east coast :)


Here are the minuses:
1. no return policy, you are struck with it
2. shipping cost me about 80 bucks so added that cost to the gig
3. I have the side handle mounted to my camera so you will only be able to use three of the vertical arms, not the fourth one, since it will not fit around the S.H.
4. The rig is front heavy by design, I could never really get the mass of the camera center on my shoulder. So, it puts a lot of strain on your arms (i just shot a feature film in Nepal for 23 consecutive days-so I know too well the limitations).
5. I didn't like the place of the handles that came with the rig (they only mount to the verticals arms), so it impossible to move them farther forward.
6. So, I replaced the handles with two I found on Amazon for about 50 bucks (that mount to the 15mm rods). It's better but still not great.
7. I see from their site, the Red Beast is Sold Out, hopefully to be discontinued.

my final conclusion:
It served it purpose but I am now looking for a more professional solution. What do they say penny-wise, pound-foolish :0


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