Shooting BW on regular Dragon

[Demetri Zuev]

Ok, so I may have a project coming that will require to shoot BW on Dragon. The cameras will not be monochrome Dragons, just regular ones.

Are there any specific settings and algorithms I should be aware of, before we start rolling?

Maybe someone had an experience of getting the max out of regular Dragon sensor in BW mode and can share their advice.

 

[David Battistella]

I just did this for a job and rated it all at 1000ISO. One thing I also did was create a monochrome preset by setting a look file with saturation at zero. You want to be monitoring th image in black and white. If you use RAW view it will be in color.

I was quite please with the noise floor and grain with the regular dragon sensor rating it this way. Do some tests for yourself.

Nothing beats and actual monochrome but the "poor mans monochrome" works as well and the sensor is incredibly beautiful when you strip the color information from the file.

The key is to test and then also monitor in Monochrome which is very easy to set up.

 

[Ulf Krentz]

Yes, monitor in bw. Remember you can choose how much influence the three color channels will have on the final output. This provides a kind of software bw filtering, using strong filter colors has been applied ever since. I totally agree with David, the Dragon sensor has an excellent grayscale interpretation, easy to get beutiful results, not sure with the 1000ASA though, I prefer a cleaner image to start with.

Cheers

Ulf

 

[Marcus Friedlander]

Interesting point about black and white software filtering Ulf. Do you think it would be as effective as filtering with glass?

 

[Mert Icgoren]

How about using the Monochrome OLPF ? Do you think it will yield to a better image ?

What difference does that really make ?

 

[Maik Müller]

How about using the Monochrome OLPF ? Do you think it will yield to a better image ?

What difference does that really make ?

"The DSMC Monochrome is ONLY compatible with the RED DRAGON MONOCHROME sensor."

Kippertie's full-spectrum would be an interesting option.

 

[Russ Fill]

When using the Kippertie's full spectrum it seems to me that the sharpness is kind of.... how would you say.... supper sharp and I think there is a warning of possible morie on some patterns.
I know if your going for BW you will probably end up with the saturation pulled down to nothing but Im not sure how the BW shades or contrast's may be affected off of some colors or shades when using the Full Spectrum OLPF.
Im pretty sure you won't get the same look as just pulling the sat down...

 

[Ulf Krentz]

Interesting point about black and white software filtering Ulf. Do you think it would be as effective as filtering with glass?

Yes, it is quite similar. The best thing is you don´t "burn in" the filtration and can change / adapt it to the desired degree anytime.

Cheers

Ulf