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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Serenity

Yes, kind of, but it was a little more complicated than that. But yes, they didn't like the original version of the pilot so they requested some changes. More action, a less dark Mal, more funny. So Joss dutifully reshot a bunch of scenes and gave them a new version. They then didn't even watch the updated version, instead they demanded a new 1 hour pilot with more action. And that it needed to start filming on Monday (this was the Friday before). So Joss and Tim wrote the Train Job replacement pilot in 2 days. So technically the show had two pilots Serenity and The Train Job. And both were written as so. Though obviously Serenity was a much more detailed and interesting one. The original pilot: Serenity was actually the last episode Fox aired, about a week after word had come down about it's cancellation.

You can listen to Tim Minear talking about this in detail on our documentary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZhaiSnt7DQ#t=8m00s (hit refresh right after this link loads to get Youtube to jump to the correct spot 8 minutes in).

Many other episodes were played out of order originally as well.

So it really wasn't a surprise the show got at best fair ratings. Fox treated it like crap. Frankly I'm excited to see Dollhouse, but I think Fox would have been smarter to re-light Firefly as it already has a large and growing fan base.
 
After the whole firefly debacle I had a hard time getting into a tv series. Why get interested if they are just going to change up the time slots until it gets canceled

Firefly is still my favorite series and Joss should be proud. Also many execs at the network should be ashamed for not having the foresight of a common piss-ant. Browncoats have no power but at least they're loyal. I almost have the swearing in Chinese down. Had there been a full season I would have nailed it.

Good luck trying to revive the show. After serenity it would take a miracle
 
If I'm ever insanely rich, I'll go to Joss Whedon and say: Here's the money, go ahead and make me some more Firefly seasons and a few more movies.
Also unlikely...

I would too. Seriously, it has a big enough cult following. I see no reason why the series could not be resurrected and become a profitable franchise if handled properly. If I were looking to produce a TV series, <hint to any would-be producers reading this> take a look at Firefly instead of gambling on some re-hash of the latest British comedy, Survivor rip-off or the next SexInTheCityDesperateLipstickDipstickHousewives show.

Whedon should just do some of this the Dr. Horrible way. I'll animate him some space ships for free! Who's with me?

You get Joss on board and secure any rights to Firefly that FOX and others may still be holding on to, and I'm in. :)
 
You get Joss on board and secure any rights to Firefly that FOX and others may still be holding on to, and I'm in. :)


Almost everyone who was on that show, the main cast and almost all the guest stars always comment on how they would jump back on the bandwagon right then and there, if firefly started up again
 
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