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Scarlet's Power Usage

From the SCARLET-X Operation Guide (v2.0.5) found here...

https://www.red.com/support/all/downloads

POWER CONSUMPTION

The camera draws approximately 60 watts when recording in 4K resolution, 24fps MOVIE mode. The camera is cooled by convection from the camera body assisted by a fan contained in a sealed air duct.


Under typical operating conditions, a REDVOLT® XL 90Wh battery will run the camera and accessories for about 90 minutes. A REDVOLT® 30Wh battery will run the camera and accessories for about 30 minutes.
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Oscar G said:
From the SCARLET-X Operation Guide (v2.0.5) found here...

https://www.red.com/support/all/downloads
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Thank you very much for that. :)

Would you (or anyone else) happen to know how many amp battery it requires? (I'm not sure if I'm asking that correctly...) Basically, I'm trying to find out if I can use Bebob Akkus batteries with a Scarlet. Has anyone tried them with an EPIC, perhaps?
 
Brian Iannone said:
Thank you very much for that. :)

Would you (or anyone else) happen to know how many amp battery it requires? (I'm not sure if I'm asking that correctly...) Basically, I'm trying to find out if I can use Bebob Akkus batteries with a Scarlet. Has anyone tried them with an EPIC, perhaps?
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I don't see why you couldn't. You just need a v-lock battery plate and somewhere to mount it.

That paragraph from the scarlet guide is talking about redvolts as well. So I'd you already have a red brick or any other v-lock battery you could use those. After using my scarlet I know for sure that I'm going to need several more redvolts. I, too, am going to invest in a redbrick or two and battery plate set up.
 
Kemalettin Sert said:
Dude why do you open new thread on your each questions? just do a SIMPLE search and you ll find out
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Find me one other thread in this forum that discusses Bebob Akkus V75 Plus batteries and their compatibility with Scarlet in regards to their 4.8 A max load and ability to supply sustained voltage needed to power a RED camera.

I'm waiting...
 
Brian Iannone said:
Find me one other thread in this forum that discusses Bebob Akkus V75 Plus batteries and their compatibility with Scarlet in regards to their 4.8 A max load and ability to supply sustained voltage needed to power a RED camera.

I'm waiting...
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There's most likely not one, you're fine.

Let's just drop this before it turns into an argument of some kind.

Hopefully someone here is able to answer your question!
 
Brian Iannone said:
Find me one other thread in this forum that discusses Bebob Akkus V75 Plus batteries and their compatibility with Scarlet in regards to their 4.8 A max load and ability to supply sustained voltage needed to power a RED camera.

I'm waiting...
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do i need to remind you 23th time scarlet=epic ?
 
Kemalettin Sert said:
do i need to remind you 23th time scarlet=epic ?
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Two things: 1. Do I need to remind you that the power requirements on Scarlet are slightly different than that of EPIC. And 2. You say Scarlet = EPIC as though a thread about this exists in the EPIC section of the forum. Where is it...?


Nik Harper said:
There's most likely not one, you're fine.

Let's just drop this before it turns into an argument of some kind.

Hopefully someone here is able to answer your question!
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Sorry if I sounded harsh, but I did do a search and found nothing. I don't like it when people make comments like that, especially when they are the ones who are incorrect.


Anyway, Bebob says that their Rouge series batteries are high-load batteries. So, I would assume that their Akkus series would be low-load. If so, can they still supply enough power to be able to run a Scarlet? That is my question.

I understand that batteries need to supply enough voltage and amps (I'm not an electrician, so I don't know anything about this) in order to be able to run a device. I like Bebob's Akkus system and I'd like to know if it can be used with a Scarlet, however, their site says that they are "For audio and small camcorders" while their Rouge series offer "Capacity display in percentage on ARRI ALEXA, RED ONE, Panasonic and Sony cameras."

So based on that, I would assume that Bebob Akkus batteries cannot be used with a Scarlet. Or with an EPIC either. Has anyone tested them before?
 
Power requirements different right??
click this link -----> http://www.red.com/store/power
see everything is SAME on Epic and Scarlet

from Scarlet and Epic manuals..

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A little math may help. Basically it would not be recommended to use batteries with 4.8A Max with scarlet.

If the battery has a range like most v-mounts, it will have a voltage of ~11-16V as it discharges depending on the load. Toward the end of the battery (worst case), that means 11v*4.8A=52.8W which is less than scarlets quoted spec of 60w. Its possible it'd work but I would definitely not recommended it since it could be bad for the camera and since battery capacity drops a lot when pushing most cells to their max.
 
Kemalettin Sert said:
Power requirements different right??
click this link -----> http://www.red.com/store/power
see everything is SAME on Epic and Scarlet


from Scarlet and Epic manuals..


m27Jy.png



q9mV3.png
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Wow, you sure go through a lot to try and prove your point...

From the Scarlet FAQ posted on November 3rd, 2011 at 7:53 PM by Mr. Jannard under Recon:

Since Scarlet-X has a lower data rate, does it burn less power and have greater battery life?
Yes. More than slight and less than a lot.
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The same thing can be found on RED's FAQ page here: http://www.red.com/faqs/scarlet/recording

Kemalettin, if you have a personal issue with me, I suggest you contact me through a PM instead of derailing my threads.

EDIT:
I've updated your quote with your newer, "nicer" sounding one.


Noah Yuan-Vogel said:
A little math may help. Basically it would not be recommended to use batteries with 4.8A Max with scarlet.


If the battery has a range like most v-mounts, it will have a voltage of ~11-16V as it discharges depending on the load. Toward the end of the battery (worst case), that means 11v*4.8A=52.8W which is less than scarlets quoted spec of 60w. Its possible it'd work but I would definitely not recommended it since it could be bad for the camera and since battery capacity drops a lot when pushing most cells to their max.
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Thank you. That is just the sort of math that I'm looking for. =D I sent an email to Bebob, so I'll get an "official" answer in the next week probably. But, thank you for your reply. :)


David W. Jones said:
You kids need to play nice together or we will send you to your room without dinner.
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I play nice. It's the other user here who's trying to derail this thread.
 
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Actually, the manuals are an excellent source of information; something many folks here on R/U forget (or don't realize).
 
Okay, this thread seems to have gotten off-course a little... Hopefully, we can try and get it back on track.

I sent an email to RED yesterday with a question regarding third-party batteries, and I just received a reply back. To be honest, I am shocked that RED is replying to emails on Christmas. =)

They said that they do not recommend using third-party batteries (i.e. Bebob). If a third-party battery were to cause any damage to a RED camera, it would void the camera's warranty on the repair. They recommend using RED BRICKs or REDVOLTs only.

So now, I'm reconsidering the way I'll be powering my Scarlet. Based on this information from RED, if you were just starting out with batteries, would you go with a third-party V-mount system, a RED BRICK system or just use REDVOLTs? And a follow-up question to that, has anyone had any experiences with third-party batteries damaging a RED camera?
 
3rd party batteries voids the warranty? Is this new? I was planning on getting some Globalmediapro batteries myself because they're less expensive, but this has me concerned. Can someone from Red confirm this publicly right here? Are there any 3rd party batteries that won't void the warranty?
 
Okay so it says the warranty is void if the 3rd party battery causes the damage. That makes sense I guess. Has anyone come across that type of situation? It seems there's plenty of people using 3rd party batteries, so I imagine it's not an issue to be concerned about.
 
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