Darius Lyles
Well-known member
Very sound advice, these are things that I had to find out the hard way. 2011 taught me that people worth working for will pay for quality and those who want something cheap are a world of trouble.
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This thread is depressing.
Guys, charge fair rates.
By bringing a Scarlet kit for free or charging $250 a day for yourself as the DP(!!!!) you're only hurting yourself in the long run. Not to mention annoying every other DP/shooter in town that then has to explain (after the client has dumped you) why $1,000 a day for equipment and operator is more than fair.
On projects that I produce and direct, if a camera op, DP, whoever quotes me a rate that is too low, I don't take them seriously. I know there's a catch: either they don't have a clue what they are doing and are generally inexperienced, or they run a poor business. Either way they aren't someone that I'd like to do business with, especially in a key position like DP or cam op.
If on the other hand, you have the skills to command $1,000 a day (but are just too worried about getting the job, so you undercut the competition), do it! You will weed out the cheap producers, and find yourself working with a higher caliber of crew on better and better productions. Sounds crazy, but it's true.
The people hiring you because you're cheap will never be the people that bring you on for high paying work.
Well said. I have produced as well - here in NYC you get what you pay for. If you are cheap people will see you as cheap. Its psychology 101. Charge more and live up to the rate. Every job has it's scale - there is no sense in devaluing the industry.
If I have the opportunity to build my reel my work and the following gear are free. Sometimes I even bring sound gear. That's a competitive NYC rate!
Scarlet AL Mount
2x64GB
REDmote
RED touchscreen
REDStation
DP6 EVF
24-70L
TVLogic monitor
sticks
shoulder rig
FF
4"jib
Arri kit
Kino Flo
2 LED panel lights
Litepanels Minuplus
Wow... just... wow. :mellow: